To strive for a healthier science culture environment in China (Part A)

Posted by Shen-Su Sun on Monday, 25 January 1999, at 12:45 p.m.

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Slightly modified on 29 September 2003


We all know that there are all kinds of bullshit talks. Some are brilliantly creative with lateral thinking, some are holy bullshit and others are crappy and stinky bullshit. It is not surprising to find that some great ideas started from casual bullshitting peppered with educated intuition.

A Chan (Zen) story

Recently I made up a Chan (Zen) story to make a point about "holy bullshit". As you probably know that Chan stories are often designed to reveal the ridiculous game play of words, silly metaphysics and the folly of mankind. The moral teaching of Chan stories often is aimed to give a shock treatment and hopefully it can lead people to "dunwu" (suddenly understand the true meaning). My story goes like this: About twelve hundred years ago in the prosperous city of Chang¡¯an, the capital city of Tang dynasty, there was a very popular Jewish religion among Chinese people. This religion was introduced by travelling Jewish traders. It has an almighty creator whose Jewish name is Haupt-niufen-yah. The image of this God is quite different from the harsh, vengeful and violent desert God Yahweh of the Jewish Bible. He is kind, gentle and wants to serve humanity. He responds to his believers¡¯ requests generously. He preaches paradise on Earth and harmony among the different races. The Chinese people had great faith in this foreign God, and believed that he was the only true creator of the Universe and the fertile world they lived in. By the way, one of this God's main concerns is fertility of the land.

Some Chinese scholars in Chang¡¯an were puzzled to find that a God with such a gentle personality came from a harsh desert country, they suspected that this God had a Chinese connection as his name sounds like a Chinese name. Thus, they carried out some intensive research into the origin of this God and his religion. After many years of hard work to break through many layers of well designed, cover up metaphysical myths surrounding this religion they were able to reveal that this gentle God indeed had a Chinese origin and that his Chinese name meant "Holy Bullshit". Consequently, they were able to explain why the main concern of this gentle God was the fertility of the land as bullshit is the one of the main sources of fertiliser for the Chinese rice paddy fields.

The folly of the expanding Earth hypothesis

You may already know that the idea of Earth expansion (i.e., no subduction of the lithospheric plates into the mantle!) has been promoted by the eminent Australian geologist, Emeritus Professor Sam Carey of University of Tasmania. Carey has been an outstanding Earth scientist with creative ideas, has made major contributions to the theories of continental drift and sea-floor spreading, and was an inspiring teacher who stimulated many Earth scientists in Australia and other parts of the world. Since late-1950th Carey has been strongly promoting the idea of Earth expansion and arguing against plate tectonics. Apparently, he still regards subduction as "a myth". Dick Armstrong in 1989 wrote a review for the American Scientist (V.77, 382-284, 1989) on Carey¡¯s book entitled "Theories of the Earth and Universe: a History of Dogma in the Earth Sciences" (Stanford University Press in 1988). In this book review, which is attached below for your interest, Armstrong gave the Earth expansion model a hard time. By the way, Dick Armstrong was an adviser for my PhD thesis more than 25 years ago on the global Pb isotopic systematics observed in basalts of mid-ocean ridges, ocean islands and island arcs, which fully supported Armstrong¡¯s view that recycling of crustal material through the subduction zones is a very important process in the dynamic Earth.

It is my understanding that Carey¡¯s mechanism for Earth expansion is by "energy transforming into mass", changes of gravitation constant G and cosmic Hubble constant. In his papers and books Carey talked about expansion of the Universe, "Big Zero" and creation of mass out of nothingness. By the way, in Armstrong¡¯s book review there are mentions of "magician" and "magic" attributed to Carey. It is well known that when he was young Carey actually liked to play magic tricks as an amateur magician. In the earlier version of Carey¡¯s expanding Earth model without subduction, the radius of the Earth in Mesozoic (about 252 to 65 million years before present, compared to the age of the Earth of about 4550 million years) was only ~60% of the present radius. This whole thing is incredible to me. I thought an advanced university science student may know that for energy to transform into trans-iron elements it needs to go through the process of big bang, nuclear synthesis in the burning stars and supernova explosion. You may say, okay, the Earth maybe expanding for some unknown cosmic reason, but why we don¡¯t see any young rifts on the Moon and the Mars caused by expansion. The answer you will get is that planets need to have the size close to the Earth or bigger then they can expand. Here is another rabbit pulled out from the magic hat?

I have heard Carey's talks in a few occasions. In ~1977 Carey gave a talk about "Big Zero" and the expanding Earth in the Department of Geology, Adelaide University, South Australia. I was there in the audience. After his talk one of the graduate students, an Italian guy, started arguing with Carey. This guy pointed out that growth of the Universe out of Nothingness is not a new idea. For example, the Chinese two thousand years ago talked about origin of the Universe out of interaction of Ying and Yang which grew out of Nothingness (in fact, this growth out of Nothingness concept is a common feeling of prehistoric people worldwide, not a Chinese creation). Their arguments became semantic and fruitless. Finally, the Italian student concluded: Your contribution today is a "Big Zero"! In his many years engaged in arguments of controversial issues Carey must have encountered many of this kind of comment. Thus, I guess this kind of insult will not hurt his feeling too much.

In another occasion I attended Carey¡¯s international symposium on "The expanding Earth" held in Sydney in 1981. At the end of the meeting I asked an eminent Australian scientist does Carey knows what he is talking about when he presented those magic numbers and magic words? After explaining what he thought about my question this eminent Australian scientist told me a story how the magic works. At the end of one of Carey¡¯s expanding Earth talk someone in the audience asked Carey a hard question. Carey went to the blackboard and wrote down a very complicated equation and thus, shut up the person who asked the question. Afterwards one of Carey's friends asked him how could he remember that equation! The reply is, he just wrote something on the blackboard to shut up the guy, there is no such equation! I am not able to prove or disprove what I have been told. But, it sounds like a good story. If it is true, the justification for this magic trick, I suppose, is that Carey knows the expanding Earth idea is right and subduction is a myth. In that 1981 expanding Earth symposium one American retired navy commander wasted about 20 minutes of our time presenting his case of expanding Earth by addition of material through meteorite infalls! There is simply no evidence to support this well-worn idea. Even Carey himself would not consider this option! I was later told that not long after the 1981 meeting someone asked the distinguished geologist Tuzo Wilson what does he thinks about Carey¡¯s statement made in that meeting that history will prove him to be right again (the first time was his support of continental drift and the history has already proven that he was right)? The reply was that he cannot see the logical connection between the first one and the second one. In the concluding remark of his review of Carey¡¯s book Dick Armstrong wrote: "He was fortunate to have played a major role in one scientific revolution. Contributing to two revolutions in one lifetime may be too much to expect.

At this moment in Australia there is a young fellow who still argues strongly for Carey's expanding Earth model. This person kept sending letters to the editor of the newsletter section of The Australian Geologists (TAG) during 1995-1996. After reading all of his letters on TAG I could not take it anymore, I called up Phil Schmidt, one of the top guns of Australian paleomagnetician at CSIRO in Sydney. Phil told me that he was the examiner of this person¡¯s Master thesis. Since Phil did not want to fail this person and thus, he did not state in the examiner¡¯s report that this person completely misunderstood the way how to properly interpret paleomagnetic data. Instead, Phil only suggested that he should read a paper by Schmidt and Clark (Geophysical J R Astr. Soc, 61, 95-100, 1980) where the proper way was explained. If this student is smart enough he will see the light. Anyway, during this conversation I mentioned to Phil Schmidt about my concern and suggested that he should do something about it to set the record straight. Phil said he already has planned to write to TAG. His comment was published on page 5 of March 31, 1997 issue of TAG. The full paper by Schmidt and Clark (1980) was reproduced in TAG pages 22-25 of the same issue.

Several years ago as a result of long-term satellite survey it was shown that the Pacific Ocean is shrinking. This is consistent with the plate tectonics model with American and Asian plates moving closer through time. This observation is obviously against the expanding Earth idea. However, this information has not prevented some people in Australia, for example, to send letters to The Australian Geologists supporting the expanding Earth idea. Old soldiers never die they just fade away (Douglas McArthur). When the old soldiers are gone many of their ideas will disappear with them. However, their living followers may carry on their convictions. The idea of expanding Earth is dead! Are you kidding? It is certainly not dead, it is alive and well in China!

Maybe it is worthwhile to mention here that my writing about the expanding Earth has been triggered four months ago by a paper (in English) written by a Chinese senior scientist who claims that migration of mantle fluids is the key to understand many major geological processes, including non-biogenic formation of large gas and oil fields. Migration of mantle fluids can also explain some mysterious big forest fires and the origin of El Nino (I am not kidding! But, it does not claim cures for AIDS and common cold.). I have been asked to provide review comments on this paper. And, I found that the author is strongly against modern plate tectonics but, supports the silly idea of Earth expansion. This event was followed by a series of communication with a friend Dr. Niu Yaoling of University of Queensland (Now in 2003, he is a professor at University of Houston) a few weeks ago when he was visiting Lanzhou University before he went to Beijing and elsewhere in China to visit several institutions (Chinese Academy of Sciences, Chinese Academy of Geological Sciences, Beijing University, China University of Geosciences in Beijing, University of Science and Technology of China in Hefei, and Nanjing University) in December, 1998. In one of Yaoling's message he pointed out that the difficulty in getting a unified model leads to the proposal of alternative interpretations (such as the expanding Earth idea) without realising (1) the data we currently have do not suffice, and (2) the alternative interpretations are even worse and violate the basic physics. I appreciate what he said. By the way, Yaoling also mentioned that he would talk about the folly of the expanding Earth to some of his friends in Beijing and elsewhere when he visits them.

Sometimes you may wonder why in the world so many people are willing to be bewitched by some experts of bullshit and become followers. It is true that we are living in an uncertain world it would be nice to have something to hold on to. I still can recall that when the American ex-President Richard Nixon was in deep-shit of the Watergate scandal in the early 1970th he and his close aids created a network of lies for the cover-up job. The basis for his tactics is that "People want to believe". No doubt, there is a lot of truth in this statement. However, as scientists we each have to make some critical evaluation and follow-up investigation of the "new thinkings" we hear and then decide what to do with them, I suppose. Furthermore, it is not simply a matter of "to believe or not to believe" which belongs to the realm of religion.

Chinese bullshit and academic opportunists

A Chan (Zen) monk may ask: What kinds of bullshit do we Chinese experts in the Earth sciences have indulged in? In addition to the political holy bullshit, how much crappy and stinky bullshit we have produced? It is easy to joke about the folly of the western experts. But, once we come to face our own people we must be extra careful. Otherwise, all sorts of accusation and shit will be poured over your heads. Since I already have had elephant shit poured over my head (see below), I may as well take the risk to carry on. During the process of revising this article I was advised by a respectable friend that I should take Chinese culture and Chinese attitudes into account when I write about the Chinese, so as not to upset some mainland Chinese Earth scientists who have limited contact with the outside world. I greatly appreciate this piece of advice. Thus, a sort of self-censorship is imposed on what I am going to write. I will take the risk of turning whistle blow into a muted noise. Under this circumstance, if someone accuses me of making a lot of thunder noises to set up the stage, but when the time comes all I can produce is just a few drops of rain, and, what I am doing is not much more than the shadow boxing, it is not forthright. In this case, I will plead guilty to these charges. To make up for these obvious shortcomings maybe I should promise to produce more rains and write in more details about Chinese experts of bullshit in another occasion.

More than two years ago I was amused as well as alarmed to find that there is an abstract in the 1996 Beijing International Geological Congress (IGC) abstract volumes suggesting that the Earth radius in the late Archaean (about 2500 million years ago, compared to the age of the Earth of about 4550 million years) and Cambrian (about 545 to 490 million years ago) was ~80% and 94%, respective to its present radius. The silly idea of expanding Earth has a group of strong Earth scientist supporters in China too! It does not surprise me that the leading scientist of this group which promotes the expanding Earth idea in China is from the eldest living generation and thus, he can be excused for being out of touch with the rest of the world. However, this excuse should not apply to his followers (or prot¨¦g¨¦s), many of whom are believed to have some overseas experiences in the recent past.

Similar cases can be found in other institutions in China. The fact that these younger followers (or prot¨¦g¨¦s) are helping, or perhaps "encouraging" (manipulating?), the elder-generation scientists to promote ideas like expanding Earth means that they either truly believe in these ideas, or they have no idea themselves. Either case they are doing so for their own gain (i.e. getting huge grants, building up their own power bases, accelerating their academic promotions, and perhaps eventually getting themselves elected to the prestigious Chinese Academy of Sciences). Sometimes, I cannot help wondering about the possibility that many of these younger people are academic opportunists who surf on the political tides and these old gentlemen have been simply used by their followers (or prot¨¦g¨¦s) as cat¡¯s paws for the power game. After being briefed by a number of reliable sources plus my own observations, I have the impression that in some places the manipulation of scientific information and people involved in present day China has reached the extent of dishonesty or even worse.

The influence of the older generation super-scientists will naturally diminish with time, but the impact of the younger generation is going to be greatly increased and long-lasting. I am happy to see that there are many rising stars of ~40 years old becoming academic leaders in China. There is no doubt that some of these stars are very good in their fields. But, there are others who have climbed high in the sky through dubious and devious routes. The damages they have done to the xuefeng (ѧ·ç) is obvious and alarming. Perhaps one of the biggest damages is that they tend to prevent younger and better people breaking out from the ground and reaching for the sky.

Some suggested solutions

It is not difficult to realise the key to improve this situation (thus, to improve "xuefeng") is to have a better peer review system for research grant applications, publication of scientific papers, and academic promotions. To achieve this goal it it highly desirable that internationally-accepted procedures and academic standard are implemented. And if possible, the review system should go beyond the national border. In addition, I would like to see some sorts of scientific moral discipline be built into the ego of these rising stars. Only in an environment with a better xuefeng and fair competition we can prevent crappy and stinky bullshit ideas becoming a dominant force in China.

When I was in Japan for three months in early 1997 I was told by more than one successful and reliable Japanese friends that if one can impress, by fair means or foul, the officials of the Ministry of Education who control the funding of large grants, one can have a very good chance of success in the large grant application. Thus, all kinds of tricks have been used to impress those xueguan (ѧ¹Ù). It is thus sad to find some people in China being inspired by "new thinking" proposed by some Japanese scientists whose main concern is to create something bizarre to impress their xueguan. To be constructive, I would like to voice my support of the idea strongly proposed by some senior Japanese scientists that large grant proposals should be assessed by international peer¡¯s reviews. And, important projects should have their major achievements written up for publication in the reputable international journals. Preferably, such publication is through normal peer¡¯s review system, but not through publication of invited papers, which can be more easily accepted without critical reviews.

I would encourage those who have personal experience of being influenced by Chinese experts of bullshit to take advantage of this Discussion Forum and to reflect on their change of minds after studying in foreign countries. Many of you must have seen that famous poster "We Must be Mushrooms. They Keep Us in the Dark and Feed Us with Bullshit!" It is time to pour your heart out (either in Chinese or in English) in the "Discussion Forum" of this OCESTA website. Muckraking of this kind may not be a pleasant thing to do, but it will help us to liberate our souls. We examine the past and present for the sake of the future.

I can think of several topics for discussion, for examples, heterogeneous accretion of planetesimals during Earth formation as the key to explain the formation and evolution of the continental crust, the formation of Archaean greenstone belts, and the formation of super-giant ore deposits. Also, using mantle plumes to explain all sorts of giant and super-giant ore deposits in China; non-biogenic origin of large gas and oil fields from fluids derived from the mantle and the deep crust; major meteorite impact events are responsible for most if not all major events of mass extinction, for eruption of continental flood basalts, and for triggering continental break-up and drift and orogenesis. I am amazed and amused to find some detailed schemes have been proposed for these sorts of "new thinking". No doubt, they are necessarily highly speculative and contain lots of wishful thinking. And, sometimes even include fabrication of "facts". Furthermore, I wonder how many of these new thinking are mainly designed to impress xueguan and senior scientists who are very much out of touch with real frontier research? However, in spite of my own obsession with these sorts of topics, I would rather leave the specific topics to the future participants of the forum discussion. This is a challenge and I hope that there are people out there are willing to take up this challenge and make the website a hotspot of discussion of interesting geological issues.

After reading this article you may wish to read two other Chinese zawen (random essay) articles of mine, "zhuanzai" in the Special Report section of this website. They are entitled: 1. Some critical comments and suggestions for the Earth science research and development in the mainland China (1994, actually published in 1995); 2. Some critical comments and suggestions for the Earth science community in Taiwan (1996, actually published in 1997 with Lee Chao-Shing as co-author). You may be interested to hear that in an open letter which I received second hand Prof. Wang Xianbin, a Keda (University of Science and Technology of China) 1963 graduate and the Director of Institute of Geology, Chinese Academy of Science, located in Lanzhou commented that what I have done in writing these two zawen articles is like a blind-man feeling the elephant. The only difference is that I only have touched the elephant shit dropping on top of me. Did I touch a raw nerve?

To strive for a healthier science culture environment in China (Part B)

Posted by Shen-su Sun on Monday, 25 January 1999, at 1:40 p.m.

Theories of the Earth and Universe: a History of Dogma in the Earth Sciences. 5. Warren Carey. 414 pp. Stanford University Press, 1988. $45. Book review by Richard Lee Armstrong, Geological Sciences, University of British Columbia, Cananda. It was published on the American Scientist, Volume 77, 382-384, 1989.

This is not a dispassionate scholarly work on the history of a science. It is a personal statement, at times autobiographical, and to a considerable degree self-congratulatory. It captures the essence of the man himself, his strongly felt views, his bold style, his favorite themes and cherished whipping posts, and his evaluation of his own role in the revolution that has taken place in earth science over the past 50 years.

Carey and I met 30 years ago at Yale, where he taught the graduate structural geology course in a way that has never been done before or since. He was there at a critical moment in the development of tectonic ideas in North America and clearly has to be credited with planting the seeds of the plate tectonics revolution in many places as he promulgated the gospel of continental mobility and ocean expansion. He was newly arrived at the inspiration to explain everything by accelerating earth expansion, but most of his audience did not catch that particular infection. Many, including Hess and Wilson, were persuaded to give a serious look at mobility, and, as they say, the rest is history. Being a skilled orator and able to manipulate his audience like a magician did not hurt his cause.

The ensuing three decades have flooded us with information and new interpretations of geologic processes. The plate tectonics model has undergone considerable detailed testing, modification, and embellishment. Meanwhile, Carey has gone on to champion earth expansion from ever-more philosophical and universal perspectives. But his views on earth expansion have changed little since 1959. The new dogma he espouses is largely a static one-the same arguments, the same fallacies, and the same points of debate are repeated here with little accommodation to new discoveries. Of course Carey was nearly 100% right in 1958 about what was going on in the oceans. His detailed view of sea-floor expansion in 1958 preceded and was not much improved upon by the views of Hess or Deitz in the 1966s. Carey has a right to feel slighted here. And he correctly analyzed marginal basins and arcuate orogenic belts decades before others discovered the truth and accepted credit for it. His feelings sometimes show: "The precocious visionary bears a sinister taint, and the accolades for the great advance are worn by the nouveau-wise."

But the essential flaw in Carey¡¯s view of the world is his firm belief that compression in mountain belts and subduction of the ocean floor are "myth" "illegitimate faith" and "spurious concept" He minces no words in his dismissal of these essential components of the plate tectonics hypothesis. His arguments are exemplary of the failures he sees in others, but not in himself-the blind eye to contradictory data, the resort to fallacious arguments, and the mustering of non-unique "explanations" of data. Students of tectonics can only stare in disbelief and amazement as he assaults the "myths." His discussion denies volumes of modern and ancient literature on mountain belt structure, decades of study by seismologists, deep seismic profiles, deep-sea drilling results, and endless lists of quantitative models of stress and strength distribution, lithosphere bending, earthquake source mechanisms, gravity field measurements, and virtually all of geochemistry and petrology.

In one rare confrontation with recent science, he discusses the observation of the short-lived, cosmic-ray-generated species 10Be found in some volcanic rocks erupted above Benioff zones. Conventional wisdom says the isotope is dragged from Sea floor into mantle and thence to the source of the magmas. Carey asserts that the observation favors his expansion model for orogens. For those of us who see such an isotope in rocks being erupted through 100 million years old crust, that proposition is an absurdity. Elsewhere he denies the high-pressure origin of blueschists implied by laboratory experiments, reverting back to a stress mineral concept. Metamorphic petrologists would not applaud. More than once there are non-subtle dismissals of "lab-bound expert number jugglers and twisters of dials on black boxes" or statements like, "Numerical mumbo-jumbo always carries respect in science." Carey holds Lord Kelvin as his star villain, the DarthVader of physics whose "elegant numbers" impeded progress in the geological sciences for decades. His references to things geophysical are few and often negative. (I recall Carey, in the discussion following a lecture, rising up¡ªmajestically, with arms raised-to dispute a sceptical questioner with the words, "I see the ghost of Kelvin." This broke up the audience and effortlessly deflected the scientific argument. Oratorical devices won the day over rational debate.)

The book is divided into six parts, each containing several chapters. The first part is the historical review of great geological ideas. Carey may see a bit of himself in A. G. Werner, who he admires for being a great inspiration to other scientists of his time, even though wrong. The material presented in this section is mostly conventional, covered in several other books on the history of geological science, but here it is spiced with numerous Careyisms-many items inserted here for elaboration in later chapters. And he goes to particular length to trace the roots of expansionist thought. The second part of the book, on mobile continents, is probably the most important, because it is on that issue that Carey¡¯s fame rests. He reviews his role and the work of some others that led to the great revolution.

For the third part one may want to stock up on grains of salt, for here he develops the concept of the expanding earth. The arguments are virtually the same as in his previous book on the topic. Most are well worn. The fallacy that Africa and Antarctica should be crushed by the new ocean floor being created around them is repeated here. As has been pointed out before, numerous times, this rests on the false assumption that the ridges are fixed on their relative positions. But the majority of the paradoxes, which lead him to expansion, arise from his denial of subduction and compression in mountain belts. If that is the premise, then expansion is inescapable. But for all the points he raises there are plausible, often quantitative, plate tectonic explanations. This is a logical standoff.

The opening prejudice, in his case that nothing but expansion occurs on earth, dictates the conclusion. There seems to be little independent of that single assumption that supports the expanding earth hypothesis. Carey expects to be vindicated by geodetic measurements, and cites preliminary results in his favor. But to date the measurements conform within error with the plate tectonics model and deny earth expansion. Carey seems oblivious to a problem with the water in the oceans. His proposition that the ocean waters come up to the earth¡¯s surface with the rocks that make up the new ocean floor would just not wash with petrologists who have proven, beyond doubt, that the water content of ocean floor lavas is exceedingly low. The rejection of subduction at trenches is made using the creationists¡¯ favorite device of selective citation-the quoting of all who have expressed opposition or doubt about subduction, regardless of later discoveries or repudiation.

Section four concerns vertical orogenesis. Carey presents his absolutely idiosyncratic view of mountain building-the expanding orogen, everything moving upward and outward from the center, with secondary lateral spreading driven by gravity. According to Carey, orogens eventually expand into oceans. This is the ultimate con job: something for nothing, new crust and mountain root instantly out of mantle by phase change and hydration. Few have followed him down this particular path, least of all those who have done fieldwork in mountain belts and been concerned with balanced sections and precise paleogeographic reconstructions. The geochemistry and petrology of Carey¡¯s proposed process are magical, rather than believable.

Part five looks at tectonics of the whole earth-global expansion, torsions (another Carey insight that stands quite independent of the expansion model), and global evolution-from Polygons to successive circum-global orogens to dispersing continents. His expansion accelerates, with the oceans coming into being only after the Permian. He casually dismisses the subject of hot spot tracks with the suggestion that the basement of the island of Hawaii may go back to 80 million years.

As with accelerating earth expansion, the pretence of the book reaches its culmination in its concluding section, philosophy of the universe. Carey presents his speculations on the null universe, where energy and mass cancel one another, where mass is being created in the centers of massive bodies and between galaxies in space. He plays a game of numerology-seeing implications in magic dimensionless numbers involving powers of 10. But what if we had evolved with four fingers, or six ... we would read these results very differently! The ideas here will confound astrophysicists and cosmochemists who already have an elaborate explanation for the history of the universe and a model for element synthesis that explains observed abundances in terms of the Big Bang and nuclear reactions in evolving stars. Science does not advance by replacing one incomprehensible origin with another, unless the new idea makes successful predictions, or is subject to testing, or provides a better fit to observational data. Carey does not provide that. The "mumbo-jumbo" he accuses others of gets pretty thick here as well!

The book concludes with an epilogue, glossary, and index. In his final cornments we encounter insight ("the greatest thinkers have been blinkered by their beliefs"), disappointment ("really important advances are and will be rejected more often than acclaimed"), and a final warning ("most heresy is doubtless false").

S.W. Carey is a brilliant and original thinker. We honor him for his ideas but at the same time see in him the pathology of genius. He has operated at times on the fringe of science, belatedly achieving recognition for his original ideas, eventually slipping out beyond science. He was fortunate to have played a major role in one scientific revolution. Contributing to two revolutions in one lifetime may be too much to expect.

American Scientist editorial footnote: Richard Lee Annstrong¡¯s review of Theories of the Earth and Universe continues the occasional publication of essay-reviews that treat topics at greater length than our space limitations ordinarily allow.

Comment & Reply

Posted by Cheh Pan on Monday, 15 February 1999, at 4:59 p.m., in response to To strive for a healthier science culture environment in China (Part A), posted by Shen-Su Sun on Monday, 25 January 1999, at 12:45 p.m.

I feel you are too emotional while talking about a scientific problem. It may not be that wise to use not very scientific language to discuss something that at least is for the knowledge of scientists, even if you feel which is not really scientific. Your audience, I believe, mostly are scientists or at least related to scientists. So I think it may be more convincing if you keep a more scientific manner, and let others judge for themselves on what you have criticized are truly trashes or not. I have heard of Carey, and, if my memory is correct, even had attended one of his presentations when I was still a student. However, I do not recall he had ever impressed me, and I also have hardly found his work in the literature that I may use. His views, or the views close to his, are not prevailing, so why not let they go as they are? People can always express their views, good or bad, if they are able to. But, as we know, only those views that are truly scientific or that can really approximate the physical truth will be accepted eventually. I think this is the way science is.

Posted by Shen-su Sun on Monday, 15 February 1999, at 11:39 p.m., in response to Re: To strive for a healthier science culture environment in China (Part A), posted by Cheh Pan on Monday, 15 February 1999, at 4:59 p.m.

I appreciate Pan Cheh's comments and tend to agree with him that the right approach is to let the expanding Earth idea alone. The expanding Earth idea is basically not relevant to the modern Earth sciences, even though it has some market in China. When Chinese Earth scientists in China and overseas read this bullshit article of mine most of them may feel that it is not relevant to the scientific reality in China and thus, they will simply ignore it. But, I do hope that they can be amused by the silly stories in the article. If that happens I will be quite happy.

By the way, the title of this article has been changed from "Experts of bullshit" to "Bullshit and good ideas" to "To believe or not to believe" to the current one. It was meant to be a light-hearted article to make a point. But, friends told me that the title with bullshit in it stinks; "to believe or not to believe" has a religious connotation. Suggestions made by friends to improve the presentation eventually made the article an English zawen with a serious concern with xuefeng. During final revision I thought I might well give it a grand title. To give a bullshit story such a grand title is a joke itself, I suppose.


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