august 13, 2002

bismillaahir rahmaanir rahiim -- in the name of allah, rahman, rahim
 

'the supposed historical resurrection'
versus
'so well authenticated by evidence'

 

His Royal Highness Prince Aga Khan III

    Reincarnation or Companionship on High?

 

   An article by Imam Hazrat Mowlana Sultan Mahomed Shah  (s.a.s.)

Source: Africa Ismaili Kisumu Supplement, March 28, 1969

The Christian burial ceremony and the prayers then said by the presiding ecclesiastics refer to resurrection in a way that implies some kind of similarity with THE SUPPOSED HISTORICAL RESURRECTION OF CHRIST THREE DAYS AFTER HIS DEATH. There is the undoubted implication in the Burial Service that a similar resurrection will in time be the fate of those who die in Christianity.

      Just as the events of Easter Week become part of Christianity and the hope of men, so the death-bed scene of our Holy Prophet, so well authenticated by evidence, took place in the presence of his two cousins, Ali and Ibn-Abbas, his wives, and above all, his future great successor, the Caliph Omar, then one of his leading companions. All this evidence is exactly the same. The last words of the Prophet were "Companionship on High."

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002.059 But those who did wrong changed the word which had been told them for another saying, and We sent down upon the evil-doers wrath from heaven for their evil-doing.  --   004.046 Some of those who are Jews change words from their context and say: "We hear and disobey; hear thou as one who heareth not" and "Listen to us!" distorting  with their tongues and slandering religion. If they had said: "We hear and we obey: hear thou, and look at us" it had been better for them, and more upright. But Allah hath cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, save a few.

005.078 Those of the Children of Israel who went astray were cursed by the tongue of  David, and of Jesus, son of Mary. That was because they rebelled and used to transgress.

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LET THE ISLAMIC TRUTH PREVAIL ONCE AND FOR ALL

9:30. And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they! 
9:31. They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks and the Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to worship only GOD ONE--ILAAHANW-WAAHIDAA. 
NO GOD EXCEPT HIM -- LAA ILAAHA ILLAA HUU. 
SUBHAANAHUU--HOLY IS HE. 
Be He Glorified from all that they ascribe
as partner (unto Him)! 
9:32. Fain would they put out the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah disdaineth (aught) save that He shall perfect His light, however much the disbelievers are averse. 
9:33. He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance -- WA DIINIL - HAQQI -- AND THE RELIGION OF TRUTH, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse. 

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see THE 'RIDER ON THE WHITE HORSE' and his SWORD'  [revelation 19:11-16]; aka ALI and HIS ZULFIKAR go to work and beat the satan and his minions at his own game.

ALI AND HIS SWORD ZULFIKAR

 

La fata illa Ali -- There is no hero except Ali,
la saif illa Zulfikar - there is no sword except his sword Zulfikar

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58:21. Allah hath decreed: Lo! I verily shall conquer, I and My messengers. Lo! Allah is Strong, Almighty. 

 

 

the bible's irrefutable reply to:

friends of israel

and steve van nattan, a self-proclaimed jackass

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important topics covered

• was this another of those foi--satanic ploys & deceptions?

• where is jesus and what is he doing 'now'?, asks foi 

• THE REAL 911 LIKE TRAGEDY

 

 

the scripture truth

all those who follow the scripture, be it the bible or the holy qur'an must know and understand that there is only ONE LORD GOD OF ALL, call him what you will. 

Numbers 27:16 (YLT) `Jehovah--God of the spirits of all flesh--appoint a man over the company

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he is NOT a 'human-being' or a third of the unfathomable christian 'trinity'. this fact becomes obvious not only from the holy qur'an but also from the bible itself. 

Genesis 1:2 (KJV) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Isaiah 60:19 (KJV) The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory.  John 4:24 (KJV) God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

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  John 4:24
God is a Spirit; that is, he hath no body, nor bodily parts; he is not 
a bare spiritual substance: but a pure and perfect Spirit: and therefore 
his worshippers must worship him in spirit and in truth; where 
spirit is opposed to the legal ceremonies, and truth to the Jewish 
rites, not to hypocritical services: for the old patriarchs did worship 
God in spirit and in truth. As truth is taken for sincerity, they served 
him with a sincere conscience, and with a single heart. But our 
Saviour's business is to shew, that a worship without legal rites and 
Jewish ceremonies, is proper to the times of the gospel.
In these words, observe, 1. The nature of God declared; God is a 
Spirit.
2. The duty of man inferred; therefore they that worship him, must 
worship him in spirit and in truth.
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• meaning: although, 'HE had created man in OUR image' ;

• neither is the lord god [yhwh elohiym] that creature namely, 'WORD-god made flesh or a man--human being' - [as in jesus christ JOHN 1:1-3,14] ;

• nor is that CREATED 'human being' himself - the lord god [yhwh elohiym] ;

• as paul and his followers, the pauline christians would have us believe. 

PROOF

GENESIS 1:26 (KJV) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

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GOD IS NOT A MAN OR THE 'SON OF MAN'

Numbers 23:19 (KJV) God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

1 Samuel 15:29 (KJV) And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he [is] not a man, that he should repent. {Strength: or, Eternity, or, Victory}

Malachi 3:6 (KJV) For I [am] the LORD, I change not;

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the 'son of man' or adam was created in the 'likeness of adam' only and NOT that of GOD.  and since, 'jesus was conceived ONLY by the holy ghost'  as well, said to be the 'son of adam' - [Luke 1:35; 3:23 (KJV)], - he could not have been created in the 'IMAGE OR LIKENESS OF GOD' at the same time.

and although he was conceived by the holy ghost ONLY -- he was to be 'CALLED' the 'son of god.' NOWHERE did that verse say that jesus  "WAS" the actual son of god as such.

meaning: HE WAS NOT the 'son of god' in literal sense of the term, which is further evident from the fact that nowhere in the 4-four gospels did god himself declare that jesus was his 'only begotten son.'

shall be called <kaleo>

     Luke 1:35 (KJV) And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:  therefore <dio> also <kai> that holy thing <hagios> which shall be born <gennao> of <ek> thee <sou> shall be called <kaleo> the Son <huios> of God <theos>.

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   2564. kaleo
Search for G2564 in KJVSL
kalew kaleo kal-eh'-o
akin to the base of 2753; to "call" (properly, aloud, but 
used in a variety of applications, directly or otherwise):--
bid, call (forth), (whose, whose sur-)name (was (called)).
See Greek 2753 
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'and shalt call his name Ishmael'

Genesis 16:11 (KJV) And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou [art] with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. {Ishmael: that is, God shall hear}

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Genesis 16:11
11. Ishmael--Like other Hebrew names, this had a signification, 
and it is made up of two words--"God hears." The reason is 
explained.
11. d. Ishmael: that is, God shall hear

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• did ishmael become 'a god' just because ;

• he was THE 1^ST PERSON in the bible ;

• TO BE NAMED BY GOD  ;

• and that his NAME also means 'god hears'?? 

and more importantly, Genesis 21:20 (KJV) And God was with the lad [ISHMAEL]; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer.

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i.     besides that, what else did the lord god say about himself and his creatures? 
ii.    in other words, how did he distinguish himself from them? 
iii.   how did jesus fit this DIVINE criterion? 

well, you be the judge.

Hosea 11:9 (KJV) for I [am] God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: 

Genesis 5:1 (KJV) This [is] the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Genesis 5:3 (KJV) And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat [a son] in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

Genesis 9:6 (KJV) Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

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if the above is true and it is then;

a.     every human being that had ever been CREATED on the face of this earth was /is  a 'god' by virtue of his creation in the 'image of god'; 

b.     or else, jesus christ is not and was not the 'WORD-god-made flesh' and/or 'a god besides THE GOD.'
c.    moreover,  jesus christ was NOT the yhwh, the lord god of the old testament, as claimed by paul. 
d.     although he may have been 'my lord or master -- adoni' as at psalms 110:1 & Mark. 12:36, david did not call him yhwh, the god. 

e.    and NEITHER did jesus call himself yhwh, the god. please see below and CLEARING CERTAIN BIBLICAL MISCONCEPTIONS.

f.     like the rest of us, he--jesus was only a copy of a copy of a copy down to his generation and, not the original mold per se. krishna of india [1200 b.c.];  pythagoras [550 b.c.]; zoroaster and juno of greece are but a few examples of the 'miraculous and immaculate conception of the gods.'  see, 'the world's sixteen crucified saviors -- or christianity before christ,' by kersey graves.

g.     but more importantly, 'god is not a man or the son of man,' says he.

     Numbers 23:19 (KJV) God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

     Luke 3:23 (KJV) And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was [the son] of Heli,  Luke 3:38 (KJV) Which was [the son] of Enos, which was [the son] of Seth, which was [the son] of Adam, which was [the son] of God.

     Colossians 1:15 (KJV) Who [jesus] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Hebrews 1:3 (KJV) Who [jesus] being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

     Hosea 11:9 (KJV) for I [am] God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: 

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THE REAL 911 LIKE TRAGEDY

the shaky christian foundation gives way and crumbles BEFORE the world -- see below.

Matthew 10:28 (KJV) And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but  rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

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 JESUS: one of the 'grandsons of god' 

Proverbs
Chapter 8

22   ⁵ "The LORD begot me [WISDOM], the first-born of his ways, the forerunner of his prodigies of long ago;  23   ⁶ From of old I was poured forth, at the first, before the earth. Table of Contents Previous Chapter Next Chapter

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Luke 7:35 (KJV) But wisdom is justified of all her children. Luke 11:49 (ASV) Therefore also said the wisdom <sophia> of God <theos>, I will send unto them prophets and apostles; and [some] of them they shall kill and persecute; 

Matthew 11:19 (KJV) The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

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please read the above with some intelligence. WISDOM TOOK PRECEDENCE OVER EVERYTHING INCLUDING JESUS. WISDOM--SHE was also the PRIMAL EMANATION from the lord god. in other words, "BEGOTTEN"  in the christian terminology.

•        therefore, if the above scripture is true then jesus could not have been 'the ONLY BEGOTTEN son of god.'

• jesus' claims and teachings are at best, only a copy of WISDOM--SOPHIA'S teachings and/or produced to counter hers. 

•    ALTHOUGH CHRISTIANITY AND ITS ADHERENTS WILL NEVER ADMIT THIS FACT, THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, THERE'S NOTHING ORIGINAL ABOUT HIS BIRTH,  HIS THOUGHT, HIS CLAIM AND/OR HIS TEACHINGS.

• moreover,  if he was the 'son of wisdom,' as claimed by jesus himself [Matthew 11:19; Luke 7:35; 11:49] ;

• then he could only be one of the prophets of wisdom;

•  and one of the 'grandsons of god.' 
  

   this circumstances furnished the  most propititious opportunity to concoct the story that "The Most High" had condescended and descended to become both a father and grandfather to a human being, or a being apparently human at least.

we say grandfather, because, if god [as the christian bible itself frequently asserts, both directly and by implication] is father of the whole human family, then he was father to the maternal parent; so that her son though deriving existence from him, would be his grandson as well as son, hence the corollary, JESUS CHRIST WAS A GRANDSON OF GOD AS WELL AS A SON OF GOD, and jehovah both his father and grandfather. [the world's sixteen crucified saviors -- or christianity before christ, by kersey graves, chapter iv - miraculous and immaculate conceptions of the gods, pp 43-44. 6th edition since 1960. new york, the truth seeker company, publisher of freethought books 38 park row].

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JESUS WAS NOT  "THE CHRIST"  AS IN "PURE--HOLY--PURIFIER" 

jesus as depicted in the 'scriptures' and also as 'seen' through the eyes of paul, his so-called 13th apostle.

  Psalms 146:3 (KJV) Put not your trust in princes, [nor] in the son of man, in whom [there is] no help <t@shuw`ah>. {help: or, salvation}

  8668. t@shuw`ah
Search for H8668 in KJVSL
  hewvt t@shuw`ah tesh-oo-aw'
or tshuah {tesh-oo-aw'}; from 7768 in the sense of 3467; rescue (literal or figurative, pers., national or spir.):-- deliverance, help, safety, salvation, victory.
See Hebrew 7768
See Hebrew 3467 

Son of man
  (3.) In the New Testament it is used forty-three times as a distinctive title of the Saviour. 

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        Romans 8:32 (KJV) He that SPARED NOT his own Son,  Romans 8:3 God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

        Galatians 3:13 Christ .... being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

       Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; 

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in spite of these irrefutable & irrevocable biblical facts, you will find that the pauline and the tritheistic [NOT A TRI-UNITY],  judeo- christians [foi--friends of israel,] etc.,  will go to unimaginable lengths in order to prove otherwise or simply, belie their own scriptures. 

please read the following very carefully and slowly, as it will help you understand the trinitarian christianity and practice of your own faith a little better.

1.   BOTH G_O_D & john, the baptist   d_e_s_t_r_o_y_e_d   the very FOUNDATION OF christianity

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2.    PAUL DROPPED A 'DIVINELY INSPIRED' TIME BOMB

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A NEW SONG & A NEW NAME

Isaiah 42:8 (KJV) I [am] the LORD: that [is] my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. 9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them. 10 Sing unto the LORD a new song, [and] his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof. {all...: Heb. the fullness thereof} 11 Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up [their voice], the villages [that] Kedar [ishmael] doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains.

12 Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. 13 The LORD shall go forth AS a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, ROAR; he shall prevail against his enemies.  Isaiah 42:14 (KJV) I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, [and] refrained myself: [now] will I cry LIKE a travailing woman; I will destroy and devour at once. 

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Jeremiah 25:30 (KJV) Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them, The LORD shall ROAR from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he shall mightily ROAR upon his habitation; 

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Hosea 11:10 (KJV) They shall walk after the LORD: he shall ROAR like a lion: when he shall roar, then the children shall tremble from the west.

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rest assured, this was the most fitting description of Hzt. Imam Ali (as) [The Lion Of Allah] in the bible. 

fulfillment in islam

   [ HQ: surah al-fatihah--opening -- made up of 7 verses]

    Hzt. Ali's [as] [the LION of allah] -- [ahl-al-bait -- house of muhammad--ahmad --praise--judah -- genesis 49:8-10]. Divine Sword was Dhulfikar [Zulfikar]. the WHITE HORSE was called Dhuldul [ c72 - TARIYE TUN TARANHAR]. 

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jesus will have a 'NEW NAME'

Revelation 3:12 (KJV) Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of MY GOD -- ELI, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD -- ELI, and the name of the city of MY GOD -- ELI, [which is] new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD -- ELI: and [I will write upon him] my new name.

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if the above judeo-christian scriptures are true and reliable then rest assured, both jews and christians are waiting in vain for someone called 'jesus'!

THESE VERSES MUST BE TAKEN LITERALLY ONLY, AS EXHORTED

a.    2Ti 3:16   All scripture is given by inspiration of GOD, 

b.    Peter II 1:20 Knowing this first, that NO prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

c.    Hebrews 6:18 (KJV) That by two immutable things, in which [it was] impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
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PROOF:  'DIVINELY INSPIRED' denials or contradictions

John 1:31 (KJV) And I [john] knew him [christ] not: 

John 1:33 (KJV) And I [john] knew him [christ] not: 

Matthew 11:2 (KJV) Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples, Matthew 11:3 And said unto him [jesus], Art thou he that [THAT PROPHET] should come, OR DO WE LOOK FOR ANOTHER? 

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WHAT is the literal meaning of the above, IF and WHEN taken at its face value only?  please note that these powerful and irrevocable  denials came from none other than john, the baptist himself, who was said to be jesus' forerunner, as per the isaiah and malachi prophecies. see below.

in accordance with the said prophecies, jesus categorically DECLARED that, 'he-john had come in the power and spirit of elias/elijah.'   

Matthew 11:13 (KJV) [JESUS SAID] For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. 14 And if ye will receive [it], this is Elias, which was for to come. 

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note again:

Peter II 1:20 Knowing this first, that NO prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Luke 1:17 (KJV) [THE ANGEL GABRIEL ANNOUNCED], And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias,   Luke 1:19 (KJV) And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings. 

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absolute denial and contradiction

John 1:21 (KJV) And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. {that prophet: or, a prophet?} John 1:25 (KJV) And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet?

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simply put:

• john belied god, 

• his angel gabriel 

• and jesus

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and that's not all. with the above denial and contradiction, john also dealt a major deathblow to christianity during its infancy.

facts or blind faith

if this is indeed the 'inspired word of god,' as proclaimed by paul, then christianity was in fact, DESTROYED NOT ONLY BY JOHN BUT ALSO BY GOD HIMSELF.

and although, for centuries now the 'elite' of the educated in the christian faith have tried desperately to explain away the above damaging testimonies, let it be known that these very biblical passages had already destroyed the very foundation and credibility of christianity from its roots. after which, everything else had become academic, regardless. 

like most of everything in this faith, christianity  was based on more conjectures  than substantive revealed or inspired writings, which, could either stand on its own merits or the test of time. 

unfortunately, among other cover-ups or reported worldwide scandals, this was and still is a major dilemma  faced by a sizeable thinking youths of today, who, for one reason or the other are turning away from the mainline christianity  and/or the mainline churches or whatever.

• under the same token, some christians have gone so far as to accuse the others of counterfeiting their bible. 

• whereas still others claim that the 'counterfeited bible' is the 'true and inspired word of god.' 

• there seems to be no end to these allegations and counter allegations from either sides.

PROOF

 'the counterfeit bible'           IS STILL

  'the word of god' for a pious believer.

        Roots of Our Faith

A BIBLE STUDY SERIES FROM JERUSALEM  

The Cross and the Tanach, Part I

By Chuck Cohen

(Unless stated otherwise, all scripture verses are from the New King James Version.)

Not fully understanding the cross can cause problems for believers.

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        The Satanic Trinity     As if one evil being weren’t enough, the Bible teaches that in the last days, there will be three—a pseudotrinity—that will take over the world.

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in the light of this irrefutable proof only:

• are we to believe that the 'friends of israel' discovered the above ONLY in the counterfeit bible? 

• see below : 'IMPORTANT A  S_A_T_A_N_I_C  CULT -- PLOT  UNCOVERED'  and  CHRISTIANITY & SATANISM. 

think about it.

the bible is its own interpreter 

Deuteronomy 4:2 (KJV) Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.  [see also revelation 22:18,19]

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follow david's example

in order to understand the new testament, it is very, very important to understand its primal davidic foundation and its corroborative and/or correlative matthean opening statement, depending of course, on your perspective.

Matthew 1:1 (KJV) The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

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for starters, although the above statement was incorrect, i am sure it was not given without a reason. despite such strong, if not questionable assertion, let it be known that jesus himself severed all blood ties with david, and as such, he had also nullified the same as follows.

Matthew 22:42 (KJV) Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, [The Son] of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, 44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? 45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?

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• first of, it was claimed that jesus was 'the ONLY begotten son of god.'
• and as such, jesus only intended to show a 'spiritual' relationship between david and himself;
•  as had he--david for that matter. 
• please do not take the aforesaid or the above scripture text  lightly. 
• this is precisely what they had intended for their respective followers to understand for all eternity to come. 
• only this, correct understanding will vindicate jesus and his message;
• and, NOT the religion that was founded later in his name by someone else.

so let's begin with david.

according to psalms,  david, the 'christ--anointed' of god and the DIVINELY DECLARED 'begotten son' ALSO NEEDED his own SALVATION. 

meaning: being a 'christ--anointed' and a DIVINELY DECLARED 'begotten son of god' did not automatically qualify him for salvation and/or turn him into a messiah -- as in a 'world - savior' or whatever. 

• whereas, jesus christ was NEVER -- and i mean _N_E_V_E_R - DIVINELY DECLARED 'as the ONLY  begotten son.' 

• jesus himself did not claim to be the god's 'only begotten son'  either.

Psalms 89:26 (KJV) He shall cry unto me, Thou [art] my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation. Psalms 82:6 (KJVSL) I have said <'amar>, Ye [are] gods <'elohiym>; and all of you [are] children <ben> of the most High <'elyown>.

John 10:34 (KJV) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

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• however, the 'ONLY'  gospel that depicted him as such, was written between 80--110 years after his mission. 

• not only was it the last of the 4 gospels to be compiled or composed then;

• but also none of the synoptic gospels -- [first three gospels] -- had come close to ascribing that kind of divinity to jesus.

only fanatics like john and paul would have us believe otherwise. but then, that is the 'word of god' against the' word of man.'  as mentioned in my last installment, john, the supposed author of the fourth gospel and revelation,  DID NOT RECONFIRM  jesus' divinity' or the 'divine attributes,' in the latter scripture, or more precisely, IN THE DIVINE PRESENCE OF GOD.  now, that says a lot.

regardless, david, the anointed-christ or messiah of god NEEDED HIS OWN SALVATION as well.

'LORD saveth his anointed - christ--messiah -- 'thou art my son;  'this day have i begotten thee'

psalms 89:20 i have found david my servant; with my holy oil have i anointed him [christ--messiah]: Psalms 20:6 (KJV) Now know I that the LORD saveth his anointed -- christ -- messiah; he will hear him from his holy heaven with the saving strength of his right hand.  Psalms 28:8 (KJV) The LORD [is] their strength, and he [is] the saving strength of his anointed -- christ -- messiah. {their: or, his} {saving...: Heb. strength of salvations}

Psalms 2:2 (KJV) The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, Psalms 2:6 (YLT) `And I--I have anointed <naw-sak> My King, Upon Zion--My holy hill.'  {set: Heb. anointed}  psalms 2:7 i will _d_e_c_l_a_r_e_ the decree: the lord hath said unto me, 
thou art my son; 
this day have i begotten thee. 

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please note that although this 'anointed and begotten son,' was PROMISED all kind of DIVINE HELP, he was FORSAKEN and UNSAVED. his prayer or heartrending pleadings went unanswered as well, like so.

'why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from my salvation'?

Psalms 22:1
A Psalm of David.>> My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring? {Aijeleth...: or, the hind of the morning} {helping...: Heb. my salvation}

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• frankly, i do not know what to make of the above verses;

• other than the fact that although, david was 'anointed' [christ--messiah] as well, declared the 'god's begotten son';

• HE STILL NEEDED HIS OWN SALVATION;

• before he could save anyone else. 

and that this same 'begotten son' and 'christ of his age'  [david] was also forsaken by his god.

now, did the same god of david, EVER and i mean EVER, declare the above re: jesus christ as well? i have yet to find such a direct declaration in either god's own words and/or jesus' personal proclamation re: the same.

at best, he was declared as -- the 'BELOVED SON' of god, which is a far cry from what was divinely declared regarding david. 

at the same time, it must be noted that david was neither hanged nor crucified -- as was perhaps, jesus. that said, the foundation of the events on the 'christian cross' later, was based on only a portion -- i.e., only A third-1/3^rd  of the psalms 22:1, as follows. 

david psalms 22:1. a psalm of david.   i.     my god, my god, why hast thou _f_o_r_s_a_k_e_n_ me?   ii.     [why art thou] far from my _s_a_l_v_a_t_i_o_n,_  iii.     from the words of my groaning? [prayer--pleading, navali?] DAVID, the king and messiah LIVED ON. meaning: he was forgiven.

jesus - 'only A third-1/3rd' of the prophecy WAS fulfilled(?) Matthew 27:46 (KJV) And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,  i.     My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? ii.      ???? iii.     ???? JESUS died in anxiety and anticipation only. meaning: he was NOT forgiven.

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so what kind of a davidic prelude to christianity, prophecy or foundation was this? rather, this was the prophesied END OF THE BEGINNING for the "CRUCIFIED"  jesus and his ministry.

in other words, the whole christian foundation was based on only a 1/3^rd of the Psalms 22:1. 

however, when taken in its own scripture context [psalms 22:1] then its meaning  was entirely different from its so-called fulfillment in jesus later [Matthew 27:46]. think about this intelligently.

WHAT WAS DAVID SAYING?

  Psalms 146:3 (KJV) Put not your trust in princes, [nor] in the son of man, in whom [there is] no help. {help: or, salvation}

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Son of man
  (3.) In the New Testament it is used forty-three times as a distinctive title of the Saviour. 

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 HE WAS WARNING YOU!!

FORSAKEN BY GOD, THE FATHER

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Mark 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
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regardless, salvation of the christ himself was as important, if not more than salvation of his followers and the rest of the world. and as such, this salvific figure had to be saved first and foremost before he could save anyone else, as is obvious from the psalms quoted above and the following:

Habakkuk 3:13 You went forth for the salvation of Your people, For the salvation of ' Your _a_n_o_i_n_t_e_d -- christ -- messiah.'

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on the other hand, what happened to jesus? let the new testament speak for itself. 

jesus ended up in hell

Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither 
wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Acts 2:31 He seeing 
this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not 
left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Acts 13:36 (KJ2000) For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell asleep, and was laid with his fathers, and saw corruption:
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believe me, we have all kinds of whimsical interpretations of the text just cited. despite that, it is clear that jesus descended to hell instead of paradise, which he promised to one of the malefactors who was crucified with him.

the ' word of god' against the 'word of man '

jesus was crucified in an unholy place.

Hebrews 13:11 For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is 
brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned WITHOUT 
THE CAMP.
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Hebrews 13:12 WHEREFORE JESUS ALSO, that he might Sanctify(?, navali) the people with his own blood, SUFFERED WITHOUT THE GATE.
Hebrews 13:13 LET US GO FORTH THEREFORE UNTO HIM WITHOUT 
THE CAMP, bearing his reproach.

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Sanctify the people? WHAT PEOPLE was he talking about? that place was used only for dumping trash: 'For the bodies of those beasts.' 

and in spite of what paul would have us believe, let's see what the old testament had to say in this regard as well:

IMPORTANT COMPARISON 

UNHOLY - UNCLEAN PLACE

Deuteronomy 23:10 If there be among you any man, that is NOT CLEAN by reason of UNCLEANNESS that chanceth him by NIGHT, then shall he go abroad OUT OF THE CAMP, he shall not come WITHIN THE CAMP: Deuteronomy 23:11 But it shall be, when EVENING cometh on, he shall WASH himself with water: and when the SUN IS DOWN, he shall come INTO THE CAMP again. Deuteronomy 23:12 Thou shalt have a place also WITHOUT THE CAMP, whither thou shalt go forth abroad:

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further, it could have been a latrine or a washroom, as noted by Dr. Barbara Thiering.

  It was both "outside of the gate" and "outside the camp" phrases used for the place where Jesus was crucified in Heb. 13:12-13. The latter phrase means a latrine in deut 23:12 (Jesus the man, under 'the crucifixion,' Locations, pp. 445/46).

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deut 23:12
Thou shalt have a place also without the camp, whither thou shalt fgo 
forth abroad:
f. For the necessities of nature.

In this verse the consideration is, that the bodies of the beasts that
were burned were taken without the camp, and that in like manner
the Lord Jesus suffered without the gate of Jerusalem, and that we
should be willing to go out with him to that sacrifice, whatever reproach
or shame it might be attended with.
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- VERSUS --

GOD'S CLEAR WARNING
HOLY -- CLEANLINESS

Deuteronomy 23:14
FOR THE LORD THY GOD _W_A_L_K_E_T_H_
IN THE _M_I_D_S_T_ OF THY _C_A_M_P,_
to deliver thee, .. THEREFORE SHALL THY CAMP BE _H_O_L_Y: _ THAT _H_E_ _S_E_E_ NO UNCLEAN THING IN THEE, and TURN AWAY from thee.
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could this THEN, explain why jesus was forsaken by his god?

 

   'CURSE'

the head stone of the corner  

most people do not understand the real significance of the following prophecies, which in all likelihood predicted an end of the israelite dispensation on the one hand -- and an absolute transfer of the same to the ishmaelite nation, on the other. 

here's what i mean:

divine curse & ORIGIN of the sibling rivalries

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005.078 Those of the Children of Israel who went astray were cursed by the tongue of  David, and of Jesus, son of Mary. That was because they rebelled and used to transgress.

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     Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you 
and the woman, 
And between your seed 
and her seed; 
He shall bruise you on the head, 
And you shall bruise him on the heel.

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ETERNAL CURSE

• the kingdom of god shall be taken from you.
• but the children of the kingdom shall be cast
  out into outer darkness.

THE CURSE OF DAVID                     THE CURSE OF JESUS 

CURSE #1:    david Psalms 118:22 (KJV) The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner. 23 This is the LORD'S doing; it [is] marvellous in our eyes. {the LORD's...: Heb. from the LORD}

CURSE #2:    jesus Matthew 21:42 (KJV) Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a NATION bringing forth the FRUITS thereof.

Matthew 8:11 (KJV) And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

ISHMAEL'S  2 - TWO-FOLD DIVINE BLESSINGS HAGAR Genesis 21:17 (KJV) And God heard the voice of the lad [ishmael]; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad [ishmael] where he [is]. 18 Arise, lift up the lad [ishmael], and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation. ABRAHAM Genesis 17:20 (KJV) And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee [abraham]: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.   Genesis 21:13 (KJV) And also of the son [ishmael] of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he [is] thy [abraham] seed.

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READ THE ABOVE and use your own intelligence. don't be fooled.

PROOF

INEVITABLE TRANSITION -- GENESIS 49:10

 

Genesis 49:10 (KJV) The sceptre shall not DEPART from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, UNTIL SHILOH COME; and unto him [shall] the gathering of the people [be].

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         Genesis   49:10 The septre; an emblem of power and authority.
Shiloh; the Messiah, Prince of peace, sent as a Saviour. Isa 7:14; 
9:6-7; 11:1-10; Jer 23:5-6; Da 9:25-27; Mt 1:21-23.
To him; to Shiloh. The gathering of the people; or, the obedience of the people. See De 18:18-19. They shall accept him as their King, and he shall reign 
over them. The fact that the sceptre has long ago departed from the tribe of 
Judah, who have ceased to govern Israel, shows that the Messiah 
has come, and that the expectation of a future Messiah is vain.

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         Genesis  49:10 
10. UNTIL SHILOH COME--SHILOH--this obscure word is variously 
interpreted to mean "the sent" (Joh 17:3), "the seed" (Isa 11:1), the 
"peaceable or prosperous one" (Eph 2:14) --that is, the Messiah (Isa 
11:10; Ro 15:12); AND WHEN HE SHOULD COME, "the tribe of Judah 
should no longer boast either an independent king or a judge of their 
own" [CALVIN]. The Jews have been for eighteen centuries without a 
ruler and without a judge since Shiloh came, and "to Him the 
gathering of the people has been."
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JESUS WAS NOT THE PROPHESIED 'SHILOH'

Acts 1:6 (KJV) When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

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please note that the kingdom of israel was NOT RESTORED during his advent and further, he had no knowledge when the restoration would take place in future. 

however, both david & jesus had declared:

david 1.    The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner ..... 
jesus 2.    Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a NATION bringing forth the FRUITS thereof. ... 
jesus 3.    But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

John 18:36 (KJV) Jesus answered, My kingdom is NOT of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

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not only do these scriptures speak for themselves but also paul's following declaration only strengthened the ishmaelite position and claim.

PROOF

SAYS  PAUL 2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV) All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:          2Ti 3:16 : Verse 16. All Scripture. This properly refers to the Old Testament, and should not be applied to any part of the New Testament, unless it can be shown that that part was then written, and was included under the general name of the Scriptures. Comp. 2Pe 3:15-16. But it includes the whole of the Old Testament, and is the solemn testimony of Paul that it was all inspired. If now it can be proved that Paul himself was an inspired man, this settles the question as to the inspiration of the Old Testament. Is given by inspiration of God. All this is expressed in the original by one word qeopneustoV theopneustos. This word occurs nowhere else in the New Testament. It properly means, God - inspired-- from qeoV, God, and pnew, to breathe, to breathe out.

the two covenants Galatians 4:20 (KJV) I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you.  22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he [who was] of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman [was] by promise. 24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.  25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. {answereth to: or, is in the same rank with}          Ga 4:22. A bond-maid; Hagar.

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3 DIVINE MANIFESTATIONS -- ALL ASSOCIATED WITH ISHMAEL

a.    Deuteronomy 33:2 and he saith: --
`Jehovah from Sinai hath come, 
[Hagar IS MOUNT SINAI in Arabia
-- Ishmael's mother -- galatians 4:22-25
& moses] 
b.    And hath risen from seir [esau married a 
daughter of ISHMAEL--Genesis 28:9] for them; 
c.    HE HATH SHONE FROM MOUNT PARAN 
[ISHMAEL --  Genesis 21:20,21], 
Habakkuk 3:3 God from Teman doth come, 
THE HOLY ONE FROM MOUNT PARAN [ISHMAEL]. 
Pause! Covered the heavens hath His majesty, 
And His praise hath filled the earth.

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so now we know why the LORD GOD OF THE HEBREWS [namely, abraham, ISHMAEL, isaac and jacob ONLY], manifested IN THE LAND OF KEDAR, ARABIA! see also isaiah 42:8-17.

meaning: every aspect of the biblical revelations resonates and revolves around ishmael and the ishm