HALL OF Bristol, Denton & Stockport (c1814-1916) and New Zealand 1879-present

http://kitwithers.fortunecity.com/hall/hall.html 

-formerly http://www.geocities.com/kitpaku/hhall/hall.html 
- geocities is closing .  Please let me knoww if any links don't work!
 29.4.2009

Version 29.3.2008, 55 A4 pages, 0.2 Mgb 
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 WHAT'S NEW? 
8.10.2007 One couple asked that the names of their immediate family be removed.
 I am always happy to comply with such a request.
19.2.2007 - I stumbled on a site for Meryl MCLEOD, wife of Reg HALL 36 below:
 http://www.jarrell.ca/2788.htm run by Don JARRELL donjarrl"att"jarrell.ca 
16.11.2006 - another wine award to 31131 Tracy HASLAM & family. 
21.9.2006 - the passing of Betty REID 332. 
26.10.2005 Gerry LAWSON has sent me our HALLs in the 1851 census.
13.5.2005 An email from Geoff, a son of 18 Leslie HALL (1898-Australia) !!!
 After generations the Oz branch is again in contact with the NZ branch!
11.3.2005: See the m of 22 Gertrude LONGWORTH in 1906 to Fred KINDER.
21.1.2005: I found 0 George HALL, father of 1 Henry HALL, in 1881 census.
This has given me the family of his wife Elizabeth nee COOKE at Bawtry,
South Yorkshire: - see 9.1 below, & 9.3 for a photo of its High St c1880.
  I've renumbered Henry as 3 (their 3rd child),
and moved Harry (now 35) in front of Reg (now 36).
 ........................................................................


Kit Withers
101 Allington Road
Karori
Wellington 6012
New Zealand

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             CONTENTS
                                             page (size A4)
1. Numbering systems used                     2

2. HALL of BRISTOL, DENTON, Stockport & NZ    2   
3. Acknowledgements & Sources                33
4. Surnames and their first appearance       33
5. Place names and their appearance          34
6. HALL clues and other HALL searchers       38
7. The ASKEW tree - an excerpt               38
8. The BRAMBLEY tree - an excerpt            39
9. COOKE
9.1 COOKE of Bawtry,Yorks re wife of 0 at 2. 39
9.2 COOKE clues				     41
9.3 Clues for Bawtry,West Riding,South Yorks 44
9.4 COOKE clues elsewhere
10. LONGWORTH clues                          45
11. The TRAYES tree - an excerpt             46
   
13. Family members on email                  45
14. Some links for Yorkshire and England     
  including more on Upperthorpe and Walkely: 
 14.1 genealogy        45, 14.2 Sheffield    46
 14.3 Lancashire       46, 14.4 maps         47
 14.5 Bristol & Gloucester                   48
15. NZ passenger Lists                       48
16. Abbreviations                            48
17. KINDER clues                             48



1.      THE NUMBERING SYSTEMS USED

(i) The ID number at the start of the line indicates his order of descent from
the initial couple "0 0--George HALL" and "sp-Betsy COOKE".
(The "sp-" is for spouse.)
For example their 3rd child is given ID number "3":
3  1--Henry HALL (1851) who married  sp-Laura Elizabeth RATHBONE (1857).

The 7th child of "3" Henry and spouse Laura is given ID "37":
37  2--Vera Elizabeth Rathbone HALL (1897-1971)
and so on.
 
(ii) The generation number precedes the name.  
For example the "1--" in 37   1--Vera Elizabeth Rathbone HALL
indicates she is in the 3rd generation, counting the initial couple 
 "0--George HALL" and "sp-Betsy COOKE" as the 1st generation.  

So to see who her siblings are one can either scan for adjacent "1--" 
or scan for 11, 12, .... (In this case the siblings stop at 18. )

(iii) To make this descendancy chart look like a conventional family tree,
you need to put all the pages of the tree "2" together as one vertical sheet,
then turn it on its side with the left margin at the top. Now draw horizontal
lines between all siblings. The top line will join all the 2--.
The next line will join all the 2--but be broken so as not to cover any 2--.
So it is in 2 parts: the first is for 31 (one child so the horizontal line is 
just a point), & the second joins 41, 42, ...,48.
The 3rd line joins all the 4--and breaks whenever a 2--or 3--occurs.
The 4th line joins all the 5--and breaks whenever a 2--or 3--or 4--occurs.
And so on.

(iv) The children 2-- of Henry and Laura Hall have all passed away now.  
The grandchildren of Henry & Laura Hall, marked 4--are cousins
(or siblings) to each other. Similarly if you are marked 5--(that is
5th generation from the initial couple) then you are a second cousin
(or closer) to the other 5--. If you are marked 6--then you are a
third cousin (or closer) to the other 6--. We now have 7 generations.

2. HALL OF BRISTOL (GLOUCESTER), DENTON (LANCASHIRE), STOCKPORT & NZ (c1814-present)

     SUMMARY
                                               page (size A4)
0 George HALL b 1819 Bristol bur 1888 Christchurch, Denton 
m Betsy COOKE bp 1823 Bawtry, Yorkshire bur 1891 Denton 3
3 Henry HALL (1851 Denton,Lancs.-1931 Auckland)         5
m 1877 Laura RATHBNE (1857 Sheffield-1918 NZ)           6
31 Laura HALL (1878/9-1953) m James W ASKEW             9
32 Sylvia HALL (1880-1952) m James FARRAR              11
33 Florence HALL (1882-1972) m1 George BRAMBLEY 17
   m2 "Dooley" Frederick WILSON                 19
34 Eveline HALL (1883-1940) m Ernest TRAYES     19
35 Harry Frederick HALL (1888-1917 France)      24
36 Reginald HALL (1896-1996) m Meryl MCLEOD     26
37 Vera HALL (1897-1970) m Rex RUSSELL          29
38 Leslie HALL (1898-Australia) m Mauva         30
4 Sarah Ann HALL c1856 Stockport m John LONGWORTH 30
5 William HALL b 1860 Stockport, Cheshire       32
6 Jack HALL (c1866 Denton,Lancs) m Louie/Louise 32

    DETAILS

0  0--George HALL b Bristol, Gloucestershire in 1814 (1871 census),
 or in 1820 (1851-61 censuses) or 1821 (1881 census). "In affectionate memory
of George HALL departed 4.10.1888 (aged) 69 & interred at Christchurch, Denton.
Manchester Rd, Denton 6.10.1888" - bereavement card with George & Betsy's photo
on p1 of photo album of Henry HALL [3] held by Geoff HALL [381]. This puts his
b year as 1819.
 
(The bps for Bristol do not appear to be on the IGI for this period.
The Bristol and Avon Family History Society have fiche of burials for Bristol.)

1847 daughter Betsy [1] b at Warwick -see 1851 census under wife.
1850 daughter Emma [2] b at Heaviley, Stockport, Cheshire.
1851 at 4 Wellington Road South, Stockport - see wife; son Henry [1] b.
1853 son Henry [3] b at 6 Rowcroft Place, Stockport
1856 daughter Sarah Ann [4] b at 6 Rowcroft Place, Stockport
1861 at 171 York St,Gorton with wife & chn Betsy 1, Henry 3, Sarah Ann 4, Wm 5.
c1866 son John James [5] b at Denton,Lancs
1871 census: hatter 57 so b1814 in Denton, Lancs. See his wife for full entry.

1877 marriage certificate of his son Henry [3] lists George as a hatter of
 Upperthorpe. (Henry's death certificate gives George as a barrister!!) 
 There is an Upperthorpe near Scunthorpe in Lincolnshire. But this one is
  almost surely

 (also available at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mwi/e-riding.html)
It is now a district of Sheffield near Walkeley. (One says it is 
very near to a town named Harthill, SEE of Sheffield; another says it is W of
Sheffield.) See "14. Links".

1881 census at 25 Dane St, Denton, Lancashire -see his wife for full entry.

So the family moved from Warwick to Stockport to Gorton, Manchester to Denton 
to Sheffield then George & Elizabeth & son John moved back to Denton by 1881.
 There are 13 Dentons listed by www.streetmap.co.uk Our one is NOT that in N 
Yorkshire NW of Ilkley (of Ilkley Moor Ba Tat fame - Do you know the song?)
- see 6.2.1 re censuses, but is that in Greaater Manchester (formerly Cheshire, 
then Lancashire).
  1891-1901?

m by 1847 sp-Elizabeth "Betsy" COOKE b1822/23/24 Sheffield - ex 1861/51/71
 OR b1823 Bawtry,Yorks - ex 1881. 
 bp 12 APR 1823 Bawtry, Yorkshire; d 3.12.1891, interred at Christchurch, 
Denton.  #She is 3 in the COOKE family at 9.1 below. 
  Cf IGI: 
George HALL m c1843 at St Philip & St Jacob,Bristol sp-Elizabeth bc1822.
  (Cf freebmd: 
George Frederick HALL m Jun Q 1841 Newington, Surrey 4 352 sp-Eliza COOKE;
probably another couple.)
  1851 4 Wellington Road South, Stockport, Cheshire ex Gerry LAWSON: [ID]
George HALL    Head M 31 1820 Bristol, Gloucestershire   Hatter    [0 above]
Elizabeth HALL Wife M 27 1824 Sheffield, Yorkshire       Hat trimmer
Betsey HALL    dau  U  4 1847 Warwick, Warwickshire                [1 below]
Emma HALL   dau  U 11 mo 1850 Stockport, Cheshire                  [2 below]
 NB Stockport Heritage, Central & Info Libraries are at Wellington Road South, 
Stockport, Cheshire SK1 3RS - Tel:0161 474 4530,4540,& 4524
 localheritagelibrary"att"stockport.gov.uk
 For a map see entries at http://www.192.com/directory.cfm/STOCKPORT/LIBRARY

 NB The Museum of Hatting is close to this address: Wellington Mill, 
Wellington Road South, Stockport SK3 0EU Tel: 0161 355 7770 Fax: 0161 480 8735 
www.hatworks.org.uk See there for map.Email linn.holmstrom"att"stockport.gov.uk 
"4 Wellington Road South has been replaced by Beckwith House, a redbrick,
multi-storey office block" - Keith DANSEY, Hat Works keith.dansey"att"stockport.gov.uk 2005
"Number 4 is no longer there, but may have stood in the area which is now 
occupied by the bus station."- Sam JACKSON Stockport CC sam.jackson"att"stockport.gov.uk 
"Wellington Road North becomes Wellington Road South on the bridge over the 
River Mersey.
 www.orbit-developments.co.uk/northwest/beckwith/description.asp
gives a picture of Beckwith House (N of the bridge) and, looking South, the bus
station and Wellington Mill where the museum is.
 Enter http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/home
 The first building on the even numbers 
side after the river is the Wellington Mill but, according to the Royal Mail, 
it does not have a number. Right next door to the mill is a small factory which
makes components for hearing aids. It rejoices in the unfortunate title of 
Universal Aids. Their postal address is 8-14 Wellington Road South. Next door  
we have the carpet shop, 16 Wellington Road South.
 The map of Stockport dated 1872 shows a large square block next to Wellington 
Mill labelled Daw Bank Mill,then Exchange Street, across Exchange Street is 
shown a long narrow block which could have been houses. My guess is number 4 
was one of these. Today, this site is occupied by the Post Sorting Office, 
which look like a 1950s building. ... Wellington Road South is carried over 
the river by means of a road bridge which is then continued, on the same level,
by a series of arches. The bus station is 
accessed under these arches. Any buildings which once stood on this level would
be either on streets called Daw Bank or Chestergate. On the upper level 
Wellington Road South continues on its arches until it reaches Wellington Mill,
an old cotton mill where our museum is now located. After that the numbering 
resumes at number 16 which is now a carpet shop."
- Keith DANSEY, Hat Works keith.dansey"att"sstockport.gov.uk 2005.

  1861 171 York St, Gorton, eccl'l district St Thomas, ex David WESTON: [ID]
George HALL    Head M 41 1820 Bristol, Gloucester     Silk hat maker  [0 above]
Elizabeth HALL Wife M 39 1822 Sheffield, Yorkshire    Hat trimmer
Betsy HALL     Dau  U 14 1847 Warwick?, Warwickshire? Cotton weaver   [1 below]
Henry HALL          U  8 1853 Stockport, Cheshire     Scholar         [3 below]
Sarahann HALL  Dau  U  4 1857 Stockport, Cheshire     Cotton weaver   [4 below]
William HALL  U 8 months 1860 Stockport, Cheshire                     [5 below]

 In 1909 Gorton became a District of Manchester to its SE: see
http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/districts/gorton.html
 
  1871 Manchester Rd, Denton, SE Lancashire, Reg. District Ashton-under-Lyne,
town of Denton, Part of Christchurch & St Lawrence's Ecclesiastical Districts,
Parish of Manchester:                                                 ID
George HALL           Head M 57 1814 Bristol, Gloucestershire  Hatter [0]
Elizabeth HALL        Wife M 48 1823 Sheffield, Yorkshire Hat trimmer 
Sarah A HALL          Daur U 15 1856 Stockport, Cheshire  Hat trimmer [4 below]
John James HALL       Son     5 1866 Denton, Lancashire               [6 below]
Elizabeth SCHOFIELD Lodger W 38 1833 Stockport, Cheshire  Hat trimmer   
Elizabeth Ann SCHOFIELD (Daur) Lodger 5 1866 DuRinfield, Cheshire
 (George & Elizabeth are named in Harry's WW1 diary.)
"Denton was one of the centres of the hatting trade. Felt hatting was 
quite specialised and depended on a good "soft" water supply, so small 
areas often became magnets for the hatting industry. As George was born 
in Bristol, I would suggest you have a look around the Bitton-Oldland 
Common area just to the west of Bristol as this was the chief hatting  
area for Bristol. Quite a number of Bitton hatters moved to Denton 
during the 19th Century, so it is possible he learned his trade there!
- David BAXENDELL  davidbax"att"paradise.nett.nz 2002.

  1881 Dwelling  25 Dane St, Denton, Lancashire:
Name Relation Marital Status Age  Birthplace  	Occupation          [ID]
George HALL    Head M 60 1821 Bristol, Gloucester Felt Hat Finisher [0]
Elizabeth HALL Wife M 58 1823 Bawtry, Yorks       Felt Hat Trimmer 
John J. HALL   Son  U 16 1865 Denton, Lanc        Warehouse Boy     [6 below]
 (Multimap shows a number of Dane Sts near Manchester. The closest to Denton is
the 2nd at M11 off Ackroyd & Wetherby Sts off Ogden Lane S of Ashton Old Rd
S of Droylsden. The others are near Rochdale, Bolton & Oldham.)
  1891 not found.
  	

  ?1901 Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield ex David WESTON:
Elizabeth HALL 75 1826 Sheffield, Yorks
- see (I) under her son [6] John below for ffull details. 
NOT FOUND THERE OR ON ANCESTRY!
  <-- ??1901 92 Leeds Rd, Whitwood, Yorkshire:
Thomas Shaw 	Head       M 50 1851 Knottingley, Yorks    Glass founder
Ann Shaw 	Wife       M 48 1853 Knottingley, Yorks  
Hannah Shaw 	Dau        S 17 1884 Meu? Whitwood, Yorks 
Elizabeth Hall Grandmother W 79 1822 Knottingley, Yorkshire
-->    
 The photo album of Henry [3] now held by Geoff HALL [381] begins with 
photos of George & Betsy HALL aged c70. Attached is a condolence card
"Elizabeth relict of the late George HALL d 3.12.1891, interred at 
Christchurch, Denton. 116 Clifton Cresc, Peckham, London SE 8.12.1892"
 We need to check who was living at this address. Was Elizabeth living there
alone?
   ..................................................

1  1--Betsy HALL b 1847 Warwick, Warwickshire.
  1851-61 with parents.  1861 aged 14 Cotton weaver.
 Vera [37] knew of her.
There are a number of BHs b Warwicks at freebmd:
BH Mar 1844 Foleshill, Warwickshire;
BH Mar 1844 Solihull, Warwickshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire;
BH Jun 1845 Birmingham;
Betsy Selina HALL Dec 1853 Alcester - not ours (cf other censuses).
  Also Mar 1845	Elizabeth Mary	  	 Warwick	 16	[53]6[6];
1848 Elizabeth	  	 Warwick	 16	578.

  ??1871 Edgbaston, Warwickshire:
Elizabeth HALL Servant U 24 1847 Birmingham, Warwickshire
  ??1881 55 Digbeth, Birmingham, Warwickshire with Edward GIBBS GP, MRCS:
Betsey HALL Servant U 34 1847 B.Ham, Warwickshire General Serv Domestic
  However that EH is likely EH b1847 Birmingham with parents Samuel & El. in
1851 in London.  There are 2 other EHs b1846 Birmingham in 1871.
 
2  1--Emma HALL (b 3.4.1850 Heaviley, Stockport, Chester)
 freebmd: Births Jun 1850 HALL Emma  Stockport 19 353.
 

 
  1851 with parents at Stockport.  1861 not with parents so may have died. 
  (1851 has another EH b1849 Stockport to Daniel & Mary. Freebmd has other EHs
b Jun & Dec Q 1852, & Sep 1853 Stockport.)
 She could be one or more of these from freebmd: 
Marriages Jun 1875
HALL	 Emma	  	 Stockport	 8a	100	 
 Marriages Dec 1875
HALL Emma Stockport 8a	48 to CHAPPELL Alfred or CORBISHLEY William Ridgway
 had a father Andrew so not ours; etc
Deaths Sep 1872 HALL	 Emma	 22	 Stockport	 8a	37 unmarried
 - unlikely as registered by a Samuel HALL who was present at the death;
 parents not given. 
  Heavily is c 1 mile SSE of Stockport town centre, in the direction of Buxton.
It has a WW1 memorial at St George's & 3 pubs in Buxton Road. 

3  1--Henry HALL (b 4.3.1853 at 6 Rowcroft Place, Stockport, Chester;
d 17.3.1931 at Alfriston Rd, Manurewa, Auckland) 
(The b date & place 29.5.1851 Denton, Lancs. was incorrect; perhaps this was
an older brother of the same name who died?) 
 

 
17.11.05 ex Norman rowcroft"att"tesco.net: Many years ago there 
was a Rowcroft Smithy 1 mile south of Stockport town centre on what 
was then the turnpike road to London.  It is still a major road (the A6).
The smithy was situated where the road branches off to Bramhhall.
There were several ROWCROFT families in the Stockport area.  The smithy may 
have been associated with one of them and Rowcroft Place with the smithy. 
  Not found at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/

  1861 census with parents: U 8 1853 scholar b Stockport, Cheshire. 
  1871 census not found - not with his parents in Denton.
 When he married in 1877 his occupation was joiner, and he lived in
Walkely, Sheffield. Witness: Antoinette SPARKS.  The marriage was
registered in Sheffield 1877 (Sept qtr vol 9c p590).  (His wife's family was
at 108 Walkley St, Nether Hallam (Sheffield) in the 1881
census. Walkley St runs between Daniel Hill & Industry Street. -EP)
(See in the links under 14. below for more on Walkely and Upperthorpe.)
  1879 to New Zealand. Geoff HALL [381] has Henry's 1879 ship diary kept on his
trip from England to Auckland on the barque LEBU. Charmaine has typed most of 
it & will email it to me for posting on this site. Geoff also has old family 
albums, postcard photos of Denton, & a lodge certificate from the Royal Order 
of Foresters:
"This is to certify that Bro. Henry HALL is duly enrolled a Past Chief Ranger
of Court 6172 this 15.6.1887. Signed Bro. Arthur HOLMES Chief Ranger, Bro RN
HONEYCOMBE Subchief Ranger, Bro Wm WEBBER Secretary". Geoff also has Henry's
lodge sash & lodge medallion for Court 6172 (Auckland?). The case is inscribed Presented to Bro. H HALL Aug 18 1897 - T. JONES, Jeweller, Newton, Auckland. 
For more on the Foresters order see
 http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/foresters_en.html
In 1901 they met fortnightly in the Foresters' Hall, Newton with accumulated 
funds of £8180.

  Geoff also has Henry's will: Will of Henry HALL 1.11.1930 ...
Henry HALL of Manurewa ... retired engineer.
2. I appoint my son Leslie George HALL, Julias Mclachlan HOGBEN of Auckland ..
solicitor, & Douglas D'Arcy VICKERMAN of Auckland, estate agent .. to be the
executors & trustees.
3. I give .. to my daughters Florence Henrietta WILSON, Laura Elizabeth ASKEW,
Sylvia Elizabeth FARRAR, Evelyn Maud TRAYES, & Vera Bessie RUSSELL 25P free of
duty.
4. I give .. my real & personal estate .. upon trust .. [for trustees] to 
invest .. & to pay the income .. to Leslie George HALL.
  Witnesses George & J QUAID, farmers, Manurewa.

 Geoff has St Philips Parish Notes for Feb & Jan 1913 "The church
Mam & I was married at" with a photo? of the church "as it is now with railings
round".
 Henry's photo album starts with photos of his parents George & Betsy.
It includes photos of [4] eg "Sister Sarah an Hall 1853" [4], "H HALL & Sister 
Sarahan Hall 1855" [4] - on the back: Th. M WATERS photographer 380 Stockport
Rd, Manchester. The album includes a photo "The tank has just been to Sheffield
to collect war loans". Another "H Hall when I first met Mum 1873" by Jas 
TULLEY, Sheffield. Les's? album has "View of Thomasa showing hospital: Mr H
HALL, 79 Park Rd, Auckland".
  Henry's effects held by Geoff include a dualling pistol c1800
made by Jan Andre KUCHENREUTER (presumed to be Johann Andreas KUCHENREUTER, 
Regensburg, Bavaria, 1716-95 - ex google), a cutlas with alligator skin. 

 Betty [332] says that Henry was brought to NZ as an engineer to instal heavy 
equipment at Auckland Hospital. June [361] says he lived at `Rivelin', (named 
after their home in England) in Grafton Rd opposite the hospital. He built 
houses in Auckland. Retired to Remuera. Later moved to `Fern Nook', 79 Park 
Road. He owned Lots 12 & 13 on Park Rd & part of lot 8 backing on to Lot 13: 
frontage 90'5", boundary with lot 11 is 115'6", boundary with lot 14 is 
152'9" - ex hand drawn map "conveyed from Mr RENZINA to Mr H HALL; valuation
300 P" held by Geoff [381].
 

 
For more on Rivelin (photos) & Fern Nook, see the info following his wife Laura
below supplied by Kay TRAYES from the Takapuna Library and Archives in 2002.

 Death certificate: retired engineer died 17.3.1931 at Alfriston Rd, Manurewa
[just S of Regional Botanic Gardens] aged 79 of senile decay, atheroma of 
arteries, etc; son of George HALL barrister and - nee COOKE; buried 18.3.1931 
at Purewa Cemetery, Auckland  by JE DRAPER Anglican; b Denton, England; 
52 years in NZ; married at Denton, England at 26 to Laura Elizabeth RATHBONE; 
issue living: M aged 34,32; F aged 52 50 48 47 36; Thos G McIVOR undertaker.
(This confirms his b place but contradicts his m place & father's occupation.)
 (KT will check with council archives for St no. in Alfriston Rd.)

 
On one side is written:
 "In loving memory of Laura Elizabeth dearly beloved wife of Henry HALL
who departed this life 5th November 1918 in her 61st year. At rest." On 
another:
 "In loving memory of Henry dearly beloved husband of Laura Elizabeth HALL
who departed this life 17th March 1931 in his 79th year. Re-united. A 3rd side:
 In loving memory of Lieutenant? H.F. HALL Auckland Infantry Battalion, killed 
in action at Messines France on 9th June 1917, aged 29 years."
Downhill from this grave is a FARRAR grave: see under 1222 for details.
 When his son Harry [35] enlisted, Henry was living at 2 Beaconsfield St.,
Devonport.

 Handwritten ex 1215 via KT: "and Henry HALL died March 17th 1931 in his 79th
yr. Both interred at Purewa, Auckland."
 When Harry was killed on 9.6.1917, he was living at Dominion Rd, Devonport
according to the bereavement note sent out by Henry HALL. Kay notes that in 
1929 Dominion Rd became Allenby Ave. (after a WW1 general). (It turns left off
Memorial Drive as one approaches Devonport.) In 1917 when Vera [37] first 
married, she & Rex lived at Derby Rd, off Allenby Av. 

 www.purewa.co.nz gives
HALL Henry 79 Years died 17.3.1931; Serial No 10079;Date of Service 18.3.1931
Funeral Dir TJ McIvor & Sons Ltd, 434 Karangahape Rd; Block F 38 Plot 104:
get map from office & drive W til the end of Block A where a side road goes 
N; Row 38 is just past that side road starting with graves 75-78 WATSON,
79-83 WELLS, 84 JOHNSON, 85 KITCHENER, 86 BUTLER, ... 103 SILK, 104 HALL just
before a pohutukawa, with oak & fir trees to the right a few yards,
105 HALL/WILSON [see 33 Florence below], 106 LYES, ...
 Geoff [381] has his postcard "KSSC AWAROA arriving Helensville".

m 2.8.1877 at St Philip's,Walkley,Sheffield sp-Laura Elizabeth RATHBONE (1857 
Brook Lane?,Sheffield-6.11.1918 Auckland) 
  1861 census at Brook Lane, Sheffield with her parents & brother
 ex paddison49"att"hotmail.com 2005:                    
Thomas RATHBONE    43 1818   CHS    Wareham  Boot and shoe maker
Elizabeth RATHBONE 24 1836   NTT    Retford  Straw bonnet maker
Laura E. RATHBONE   3 1858   YKS    Sheffield
Thomas H. RATHBONE  2 1859   YKS    Sheffield  
 freebmd: m regd Sep qtr 1877 at Sheffield 9c 590. 

 Re St Philip's church in St. Philip's Road, Sheffield: "The church completed 
around 1828, giving it's name to the surrounding area. It closed in 1940, 
demolished in 1952, and the graveyard finally removed about 1994."  

Here is a photo of Laura c1918 (20 kb).

Here is a photo of St Philip's where they married (50 kb).

Here are the addresses of relatives Laura wrote out for Harry (46 below) when he left for WW1. (103 kb).

 

Henry & Laura emigrated to New Zealand in 1879 arriving with their first child.
 "There is an entry in the Auckland Passenger Index for 
Laura and Henry HALL arriving in Auckland on the LEBU on 24/10/1879."
- Thanks to Karen KALOPULU, Family History LLibrarian, PO Box 4138, Auckland,
 tel (09)307-7773 kalopulK"att"akcity.govt.nz 2001.
NZ Herald 25.10.1879: ARRIVALS Lebu, barque, [Captain] LINDSAYdr, from London. 
Passengers: Saloon (2) Steerage - Henry HALL, Laura HALL, Laura E. HALL [& 26
others. No other HALL are included nor any RATHBONE.]
Their arrivals are also at http://0-www.aucklandcity.govt.nz.www.elgar.govt.nz

BB found their arrival on the site for Auckland passenger arrivals 1838-1886
 http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/exec/dbtwpub.dll
 Full passenger lists are available from the newspaper "New Zealand Herald" 
records in person at the Auckland Research Center.          

A google web search for LEBU turned up their ship & what looks like 3 others:

(1): http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~dchamber/shipsl.htm
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~dchamber/shipsl.htm#lebu
AJHR 1879 Section H10 page 25 Return of Wrecks
Date of Casualty        : 16 Aug 1878
Name of Master          : Henry Govan McKENZIE
Age of Vessel           : 10 years
Rig                     : Barque
Register Tonnage        : 726
Number of Crew          : 22
Number of Passengers    : 14
Nature of Cargo         : General
Nature of Casualty      : Loss of life
Number of Lives Lost    : 1
Place of Accident       : Lat. 40o 57'S., Long. 59o 8'E
Wind Direction          : SW
Wind Force              : Heavy
Finding of Court of Inquiry
Casualty caused by sea coming on board and throwing captain against the winch.
(His head was split open crown to nose.)
  My guess is that this WAS their ship, as it seems unlikely that another ship 
of the same name would arrive NZ 14 months later. 

(2): There is prison ship LEBU in Chile 1999 holding political prisoners.

(3): The Index to Ships (c50,000) Mentioned in Maritime History Books
at http://faculty.washington.edu/petermcc/shipindex.html
lists LEBU gas boat page 449 of book by NEWELL, Gordon, ed. 
"The H. W. McCurdy Marine History of the Pacific Northwest. Seattle:
 Superior Publishing Company, 1966. Subtitled, "An illustrated review of the 
 growth and development of the maritime industry from 1895, ..."

(4): "log of logs - a catalog of logs journals shipboard diaries letters ...
1788-1988 for Oz & NZ.." by Ian NICHOLSON 18 Wununga Cr, Yaroomba Qnsld 4573.

  Laura died at her home at 79 Park Rd West, Auckland aged 61. (Listed as
71 Park Rd [Grafton] in website memorial of Harry [35].) Rates records confirmed 
Fern Nook as 79 Park Rd West [opposite Park Ave] not 71. It is now The School of 
Optometry/the School of Medicine, Auckland University Grafton Campus. 
Laura died of a long & painfull illness -KT. 

Death certificate: Laura Elizabeth HALL d 6.11.1918 at 79 Park Road, Auckland
of cerebral haemorrhage 1 hours, daughter of Thomas RATHBONE and Elizabeth nee 
PASLEY; buried 8.11.1918 at Purewa by Rev WA KEAY? Anglican; b Sheffield,
38 years in NZ [so arrived c1880]; married at Sheffield at age 20 to Henry 
HALL; ages of issue: M 36 32 29 19 F 38 30 24 21; TJ McIVOR undertaker.

The following info was found by Kay TRAYES at the Takapuna Library and Archives
in 2002.

1 Dominion Rd,Devonport (Lebu) is a beautiful large character villa with huge
old trees, on the corner of Dominion Rd (now Allenby Rd) and Derby St
and opposite a park; is newly-clad and painted and is the original home.  
The records show the rates paid by Laura HALL. 

 Kay tells me in 2006 it is on the market for c$950,000!
 
7 Derby St next door on a more sloped section, where Vera and Rex lived is a 
smaller attractive pioneer style villa with a long verandah facing the road, 
only an off-road space for one car, AND the original stained-glass front 
door panel with the inscription - RIVELIN - not Riverlin - named after Rivelin 
Valley, Sheffield!  
On the door the print is upper case with the R and N large, sloping to smaller 
print with the E in the middle the smallest letter. Harry wrote to Vera that 
he was pleased to hear that she and Rex were living in the Derby St home.  
  This home is included in the same rates as 1 Dominion Rd - they are Lots 22 
and 23 Area 5- both have white picket fences. RIVELIN had a B&T sold sign out 
front. B&T office told us it sold before it was photographed for advertising...
  Henry also owned another property in Derby St and sold 60ft x 100ft to the 
Post Office.  

 
Henry also owned 61 Albert Rd around the corner from the Derby St properties. 
     
2 Beaconsfield St is on record as rates paid by Henry HALL, harder to 
photograph due to a large wooden vine- covered fence in the front and a car in 
the driveway but we took a photo anyway.  It is a really lovely old rambling 
home with big verandahs front and back and big windows, on a flat section. 
Harry must have loved this home and Street to name his trench Beaconsfield.  
       
Lovers Walk, Devonport is aptly named, an attractive, short, narrow, no exit 
road leading to Cheltenham Beach lined with pohutukawas and renamed Arawa St. 
 

KT has sent me this wonderful 1896 photo of the Devonport Bowling Club members - he is 2nd on L. 10 kb

Of note too is rates paid by Henry HALL for 17 Cheltenham Tce now Oxford Tce. 
This property is opposite Cheltenham Beach.
All these name changes of roads !  All those properties owned by the HALLs !  
     
Rates Records show Henry HALL owned a dwelling on the corner of Vauxhall Tce 
and Vauxhall Rd occupied by Geo BRAMLEY (note spelling no 'b'- lots of spelling
errors occur in records- should be BRAMBLEY).   -Kay T 2002.  

Laura's death notice states that her brother Thomas H. RATHBONE lived at 
Kingsland, Auckland. www.purewa.co.nz gives
 HALL Laura Elizabeth Age 61,Death 6.11.1918,Serial No 6559, Service 9.11.1918
  Funeral Dir TJ McIvor & Sons Ltd, 434 Karangahape Road, Auckland
  Block F 38 Plot 105.

At last count in 2001, Henry and Laura HALL have 8 children, 15 grandchildren,
 46 greatgrandchildren, 107 greatgreatgrandchildren, and 14 greatgreatgreats!
In what follows I have separated their 8 children Laura, Sylvia, Florence,
Evelyn, Reginald, Harry, Vera and Leslie by dashed lines -----, and their 15 
grandchildren by broken lines - - - - -.
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

31  2--Laura Louise HALL b 1878 England or possibly on the LEBU 
d 3.1.1953 Auckland.  Presumably she is Laura Louise HALL
b Jun Q 1879 Ecclesall Bierlow [Sheffield], Yorkshire - West Riding.
  Teacher at Rawene, Northland. In the 1915-17 diary of her brother Harry [35] 
below, her address was "Ohura School, King Country". 
  In the birthday book c1888 of 646 of ../rathbone/rathbone.html
 her birthday is March 16.

m  sp-James Weymess ASKEW (9.8.1861 Wakapuaka,Nelson-29.6.1952 Auckland) This 
  was his 2nd marriage. His 1st was in 1887 at Devonport to Mary Alice EASTHAM.
Barbara BULLOCH (see ../rathbone/rathbone.html) has a postcard they sent to her
mother(?) with a photo of their home perhaps cWW1. On the other side is 
"Netherhallam", Seabrook Avenue, New Lynn, Auckland, NZ. - Our home. Xmas 
greetings from the Askews. They moved to Mt Albert. Their family bible is now 
with [4113] below.  ** See ASKEW tree at 7 below **

311  3--Ian James Hughes Weymess ASKEW (.11.1914 Rawene-1.7.1983 Okaihau, near 
Kawakawa, north Auckland) He was the first pakeha born in Rawene. He attended 
medical school. Served in WW2. An A grade mechanic with Ministry of Works. 

m1 Woodend?  sp-Huria Julian Jeanette MILLER (9.4.1922 Woodend) daughter of
James MILLER. Divorced. She appears on the Maori Land Court database under Takitimu.

3111  4--Maureen Hine Kirunga ASKEW (28.7.1943 Christchurch)  
 1999: 130 Hurley Place, Cambridge.
*2000: Otaika, Valley Road, RD 10, Whangarei.

m  sp-Alan Roy PARSONS (1.6.1942 Pirongia near Te Awamutu - 20.7.1994 Hamilton)
 Son of Alan Roy PARSONS and Mrs Ruth WHITING (bc1924).
 Owner of Alan Parsons Motors, Hamilton. Car salesman.
 In 1994 they lived at Flagstaff, Hamilton.

31111 5--Steven Noel PARSONS (29.12.1961 Hamilton -.3.1961 Hamilton) #Fix dates!

31112  5--Joyrene Amy PARSONS (29.8.1962 Hamilton)
m Hamilton  sp-David Joseph MILLS 
* 1999: 6 Enfield St, Hamilton Tel 07 846 3226
311121  6--Steven Joseph MILLS (25.6.1984 Hamilton)
311122  6--David Alan MILLS (29.7.1987 Hamilton)

31113  5--Martin Roy PARSONS (19.12.1963 Hamilton)
* 2002: Palmerston North. 
Marty Parsons CAWing2 PBag11023 PN to .12.04
 --> 

m1 Hamilton  sp-Brenda SOPER? No children. Divorced.
m2 .1.1991 Hamilton  sp-Melissa WOODFORD? No children. Divorced.

[311  3--Ian James Weymess Humes ASKEW (.11.1914 Rawene-1.7.1983 Okaihau)]:

m2 26.2.1949 Pitt St Methodist Church, Auckland sp-Eileen FOOTE (23.6.1926 New
Plymouth) daughter of Albert and Hilda FOOTE of Auckland). Divorced.  Interests
garden, bowls, gold panning, fishing.  She remarried Leonard David ROMAINE
(-30.9.93 Nelson), *1996: 52 Iwa St, Mapua, Nelson *1999: 40 Tairere Rd, RD 5,
Warkworth tel 09 422 6423 on property of daughter Jan [3113].

3112 4--Carolyn "Carol" Joy Wemyss ASKEW (22.1.1950 Epsom, Auckland) Dental
assistant; interests outdoors & nature. She has the prayer book of [31] in
which is written "Laura L W-Askew". She and John run the gallery and the bed
and breakfast attached, "set in a sculptured 2 acres of garden with views
across an estuary to a wild fowl sanctuary and the mountains beyond".  
*1996: 456B High St, Motueka *1999: Copper Beech Gallery, 240 Thorp St,Motueka.
 ph/fax 03 528 7456 

m 29.6.1968 Grey Lynn Presbyterian Church, Auckland sp-John Richard GATENBY
 (22.7.1947 Motueka) He is a renowned sea and landscape artist.

31121 5--Michelle Kay GATENBY (5.1.1969 Auckland) hairdresser; interests
garden, needlework.

m 13.10.1990 St Thomas's Anglican, Motueka  sp-Craig Eliott James FRY 
(21.12.1965 Motueka) orchardist & apple farmer in Motueka; interests hunting 
& fishing.
*1999: Umukuri Rd, Brooklyn, Motueka. Tel 03 528 6670.

311211  6--Eliot John FRY (13.1.1994 Nelson) 
311212  6--Hannah Kathleen FRY (28.7.1996 Nelson)

31122 5--Kerry John GATENBY (26.9.1972 Nelson) works for timber mill, interests
hunting, tramping, fishing.
*1999: living in Sydney, working for a courier firm.

3113 4--Janice "Jan" Fay Wemyss ASKEW (5.10.1952 Auckland) Attended Sunnynook
Primary & Auckland Girls Grammar. Worked for international telephone exchange
for 5 years. In 1980 bought Warkworth Passenger Service bus company. Sold it in
1986 to Gubbs. Tour operator for Gubbs Coachline, Warkworth. Has family bible
of 11 & James ASKEW. She is also Coastal Sales Consultant for Ray White Real
Estate in Warkworth.
* 1996-2001: RD5, Warkworth;1st on R, 40 Tairere Rd, Ti Point, Leigh;
 ph 09 422 6908 work 09 425 8348 mobile 025 925 760 jan.haslam"att"xtra.co.nz

m1 1969 Auckland  sp-Roy George HASLAM (22.8.1950 Auckland) divorced 1973

31131 5--Tracy Jan HASLAM (26.10.1969 Auckland) Attended Sunnynook Primary,
Mahurangi College in Warkworth & Auckland Girls Grammar.  She and her sister
Jody exhibited horses at the Puhoi Show.  Hostess at Expo '88 in Brisbane then
traveled widely. In '93 at Taradale Polytech in Hastings she studied
grapegrowing & winemaking, planning to establish a vinyard at Ti Point,
Warkworth. In 1999 she worked for Lombardy Wines tel 06 8777 895.
 

*2001: c/o David MASON, Sacred Hill Wines, RD 5, Hastings. tel 06 844 3418.


df sp-David MASON of Sacred Hill Wines. They have been partners since
1992. They have financed 9 acres of Jan's land as a vinyard with 9000 vines,
and 2 acres in olives.
*1999: 62 West Quay, Ahuriri, Napier. 

311311  6--Bruno Hamilton MASON (15.11.2000 Hastings or 26.11.2000 Napier)
311312  6--Ruby MASON
311313  6--George MASON

31132 5--Jody Pam HASLAM (29.9.1971 Auckland) Attended Mahurangi College. Cook
at N Shore Hospital to 1992.

df  sp-Gene ILLINGWORTH (Auckland). Separated

311321  6--William Roy ILLINGWORTH (1.1.1993 N Shore,Auckland)

[31132  5--Jody Pam HASLAM (29.9.1971 Auckland)]
m2  sp-Reg

[3113]: 
m2 24.7.1997 Mount Albert Memorial Hall, Auckland sp-Alexander Te Aroha 
 ROLLINSON (b .12.1952 Napier) Coachdriver for TTL.
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

32  2--Sylvia Elizabeth HALL (1880 Auckland-1.2.1952 Auckland)
In the birthday book c1888 of 646 of ../rathbone/rathbone.html her birthday is 
April 29. Schoolteacher when she married.
 Obit. ex 1215 via KT: FARRAR On Feb 7, 1952 (suddenly) at a private hospital 
Sylvia dearly loved wife of James FARRAR 10 Crete Ave, Takapuna & loved mother 
of Marjory (Mrs BREGMEN, Te Mata), Ethel (Mrs TRAYES, Pt Chevalier), Dorothy 
(Mrs CARMICHAEL, Herne Bay), &  the late Arthur; aged 70 yrs. Private service 
will be held at Arthur HOLMES & Sons Chapel cr McColl St & Khyber Pass at 
1030am tomorrow Sat. funeral then leaving for Purewa Cemetery.
 Sylvia & dr Ethel supported the Leper Appeal.

m 17.9.1906 at Bombay,Auckland sp-James FARRAR (c1877-1.12.1960 Auckland) Died
at 82. Married at Fern Nook, "house of father of bride, Park Road,Auckland" ex 
m. cert. ex 1215 via KT: she was 25, schoolteacher spinster b Auckland dr
of Henry HALL engineer & Laura Elizabeth nee RATHBONE; he was 28 storekeeper,
bachelor b Auckland son of John FARRAR storekeeper & Elizabeth nee HODGE;
witnessed by his father, Bombay, & [33] Florence H HALL, Auckland.
 He was living with Ethel [322] at Point Chevalier when he died.
 He was the son of John FARRAR (-20.3.1912 Bombay aged 71) of Auckland, and 
Elizabeth Jane nee HODGE. His father John was a wealthy merchant in the Bombay
Hills, owning a store, a bus-run, and so on. When their only son Arthur [324]
died in 1938, they were living at 86 Taumata Rd, Owairaka.
 4 children: Marjory, Ethel, Dorothy and Arthur.

Jane GARRETT 3215 has their marriage certificate.

321  3--Marjorie FARRAR (2.9.1907 Clevedon, South Auckland-12.5.1964 
 Te Mata) She did a B.A. from Auckland University. She taught at Pakau Swamp 
 area near Hamilton where she developed asthma. Moved to Te Mata where she 
 taught and married. (Until c1988 there was a store & Post Office there.) 
 `When she came down here she had a brand new Model A, one of the first cars 
 in the district. It was a bit of a standing joke here that none of the 
 teachers got out of here without getting married.' -3211. Obituary in Herald.
She also taught at Wairoa South School 1934-35. 

m 5.10.1935 at All Souls Anglican, Clevedon, south Auckland sp-Herbert Norman
BREGMEN (9.1.1906 Hamilton-1986 Te Mata) They farmed at Te Mata, RD 1,
Raglan. The children all won championships for their calves and yearlings. They
all had their own horses, went to ponyclub & competed in gymnkanas (horse
events with dressage, racing,bending,jumping, egg & spoon races on horseback &
steeplechase). The BREGMENs are 3rd generation farmers. They had 5 children:
Graeme, Elizabeth, Lynette, Arthur and Jane.  After Marjorie died he married
2.9.1966 at Hamilton to a widow, Dorothy W BUCHANAN nee GLEN (1918
Christchurch) living in
*1996: 21 Cliff St, Raglan, Waikato. ph 07 825 8296.

NB For more on the BREGMEN tree back to George BREGMEN (born 1814), contact 
Elizabeth & Glenn MORRIS Glenn.Morris"att"xtra.co.nz (2001).

3211  4--Graeme Herbert BREGMEN (7.1.1937 Hamilton-10.6.2002) Farmer.

m 27.8.1961 at Te Mata  sp-(Christena Ivy) Hazel GIVEN (Hamilton)
 `We've known each other most of our lives, born & bred in the district;
 married & shifted to a small dairy farm on Mangatawhiri Road. We're still
 here 35 years later.'
* 1995: Mangatawhiri Road, RD1, Raglan. (Drive towards Te Mata then turn R.)
 Ph/fax 07 825 6891

32111  5--Warren Graeme BREGMEN (15.5.1961 Hamilton)
* 1995-2001: 47a Livingstone Ave, Hamilton ph 07 847 9917

m 7.2.1998  sp-Catherine DUFFY

321111  6--Taya BREGMEN (15.8.1999 Hamilton)
321112  6--Dylan BREGMEN ( .10.2000 Hamilton)

32112 5--name removed on request 8.10.07


32113  5--Karen Ivy BREGMEN (3.7.1963 Raglan) Was Asst Mgr
 of Liquorking in Wanganui.

m 7.2.1987 at parents' home in Te Mata sp-Bruce BURROUGHS (S Island). Meat
inspector. 1996: 64 Thomson St, Cambridge ph 07 823 0908
* 2001: Eucalyptus Av, Chartwell, Hamilton tel 07 853 8335

321131  6--Sarah Christena BURROUGHS (16.12.94 Wanganui)

321132  6--Emma Marjory BURROUGHS (.7.96 Cambridge)

32114  5--Rochelle Marjorie BREGMEN (6.5.1971 Hamilton)
 Did a BA in Speech & Language Therapy at Cantabury. Lived in Auckland in 1995.
 Now on 2 year working holiday in England.

m 29.1.1999 Hamilton  sp-Matthew PARSONS (London)
*2001: 94 Oakdale Rd, Hillsborough, Auckland tel 09 624 5594

3212  4--Elizabeth Marjorie BREGMEN (7.2.1938 Hamilton) Now
kindergarten teaching again after 30 years farming. She has the family bible
and marriage certificate of 32 & some old photos. (The photos under 32*
here are from her. They were scanned as tif files then later converted to jpg.)

m 9.3.1960 at the Anglican Church, Te Mata  sp-Donald Curtis NEWTON (25.7.1938
Hamilton) They farmed at Te Mata, Raglan. They enjoy boating.
Until 2000 they lived at 79 Newcastle Rd, Dunsdale, Hamilton.
*2000-1: 18 Summerhaven Place, Ohauiti, Tauranga; tel 07 5444 286

32121  5--Andrea Elizabeth NEWTON (8.5.1961 Raglan)

m .12.1979 at Te Mata   sp-Kim DENT (Christchurch)
*1995: RD 10, Frankton, Hamilton ph 07 829 8557

321211  6--Nicholas DENT (15.6.1980 Hamilton)
Partner  Nikki. Baby due .2.2000.

321212  6--Jessica Elizabeth DENT (7.12.1983 Hamilton)

32122  5--Fiona NEWTON (14.8.1962 Raglan)

m  sp-David MARTIN
They married on her parents farm at Te Mata.
*1995: 24 Waitui Grove, Mt Maunganui ph 07 575 9289

321221  6--Joshua David MARTIN (17.2.1990 Tauranga)

321222  6--Hannah Elizabeth MARTIN (23.12.1991 Tauranga)

32123  5--Julie Victoria NEWTON (18.4.1965 Hamilton)
*2001: moving to Tauranga

m 11.3.1989 at Hamilton  sp-Mark D CONGDON. Separated.
* 1996: 6 Kohekohe Pl, Hamilton ph 07 849 0338

321231  6--Danielle CONGDON (3.8.1991 Hamilton)

321232  6--Brodie CONGDON (21.2.1994 Hamilton)

32124  5--Jacqueline Elizabeth NEWTON (3.12.1971 Hamilton)
* 2000-2001: Assistant Manager, Flight Centre, Hamilton.
 
3213  4--(Lynette) Anne BREGMEN (18.1.1940 Hamilton)
* 1995-2001: 7 Player Place, Christchurch ph 03 385 7978

m Hamilton  sp--"Dick" Barry Cecil John TURPIN (1.12.1935 Christchurch
-24.2.2001 Christchurch)

32131  5--Louise Anne TURPIN (28.10.1969 Wellington) Born
 at St Helen's Hospital. Worked at Kenepuru Hospital, Porirua, 1995.

m 8.9.2000 Tralee,County Kerry,Ireland  sp-Simon CLIFFORD (19.1.1915 Tralee,
County Kerry,Ireland) *2000: London

32132  5--Sarah Jane TURPIN (4.9.1971 Wellington) Born at
Kenepuru Hospital, Porirua. 1994/95: holidaying in Germany. She has the family
bible of James and Sylvia FARRAR [32].
*2000: Christchurch 

32133  5--`Kate' Katrina Mary TURPIN (13.8.1973 Auckland)
 Born at National Womens Hospital. In 1995 in Perth on a working holiday.
2000 in Taiwan.
* 2001: teaching English in London.


3214  4--Arthur Farrar BREGMEN (10.6.1942 Hamilton) After fencing
and shearing he took over his farther's farm (sheep and cattle). Then changed
to dairy farming. Later moved to Maramarua doing sheep and drystock.

m 3.9.1965  sp--Katheryne Anne TURNER (9.12.1946 Hamilton) Her hobby of plants 
has turned into a commercial nursery operating from home.
1985 Valley View, Kauroa & Cottage Ponds Rd.
*2000-1:Maxwell Road, RD1 Pokeno, Maramarua (midway between Thames & Pukekohe)
ph 09 232 5870

32141  5--Denise Marie BREGMEN (9.4.1967 Raglan) Nurse at 
Hamilton Hospital. She does education for the Intensive Care Unit.

m  sp-David Jonathan HURST (31.12.1965 Hamilton) 
Refrigeration engineer. They have 2 dogs and 2 cats.
*2000-1: 98 Otonga Valley Road, RD 1,Raglan ph 07 8255 171

32142  5--Michelle Anne BREGMEN (14.6.1969 Hamilton)
*2000-1: Maramarua.

m  sp-Brian DAUBNEY Separated.
*1996: 98 Storey Ave, Hamilton. He has since moved.

321421  6--Matthew Brian DAUBNEY (16.6.1993 Hamilton)

321422  6--Scott DAUBNEY (25.6.1995 Hamilton)

32143  5--Scott Arthur BREGMEN (11.1.1972 Hamilton)
*1995-2001: lives in a house on his parents' farm.

3215  4--Jane Jasmin Mary BREGMEN (20.11.1949 Hamilton)
When her mother died she was about 14 and often went to stay with 322 Ethel,
Billy, Stephen and John. Registered nurse. She has some old family photos.

m 17.6.1972 at St Peter's Cathedral, Hamilton sp-Peter Brian GARRETT 
(10.2.1947 Wellington) They run their own insurance brokerage, Garrett 
Insurance Brokers. He is uncle to Heather wife of 34111 below. The family
skied in Denver & Canada in 2000.
*1996-2001: 44a Parr Terace, Milford, Auckland 9 ph 09 410 6837

32151  5--David Logan GARRETT (29.3.1979 Lower Hutt) B Comm (Auckland Univ.)

32152  5--Andrew James GARRETT (7.9.1982 Lower Hutt) Doing a B Comm at Ak.Univ.

32153  5--Robert Peter GARRETT (23.7.1986 Takapuna,Auckland) At Westlake Boys,
 school ski champion in 2000. 
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 

322  3--Ethel FARRAR (5.7.1909-14.3.1985 Auckland) She always took flowers to 
Purewa Cemetery to her mother Sylvia's grave. Her preserving jar is still there
on the HALL grave. In 1960 they lived at 27 Tasman Ave., Point Chevalier, 
Auckland. 
 
m 4.11.1933 Auckland sp-William "Billy" Hoskin TRAYES (12.10.1908-20.10.1990 
Whangaparoa) (He is 11 on the TRAYES family at 11. below.) Brother of Ernest 
who married [44] below.) 
They married at her parents' home at Clevedon.  He used to sail his 
launch up the Clevedon River.  They later lived at 57 The Strand, Arkles Bay, 
Whangaparoa. Billy's parents home was at 42 Cheltenham Rd, near Cheltenham 
Beach, Devonport. Kay [3222-sp] writes "It's still there, the same stone
entrances, two storied, cream with green roof and the name Whakarua (breeze
from the sea) carved into the stone entrances." His parents William and Sarah 
are buried in Devonport.

3221  4--Stephen William TRAYES (31.3.1938 Auckland) Godson of 324 Arthur
 FARRAR. Motor mechanic. Interests include trail biking, 4 wheel
 driving, kangaroo shooting, diving in the islands. He crewed on an
 offshore trailer yacht in WA.

* 2000: 57 Arkles Strand, Arkles Bay, Whangaparoa ph 09 424 8331

m1 1970 at Henderson, Auckland sp-Norma Ofa INOKE (1946 Vaini, Tonga)
 She lives in Australia and has remarried.

32211 5--Nerissa Ann TRAYES (13.9.1975 Port Headland, West Australia) In 2004
she is working as a Home Package Consultant/licensed real estate agent for a
construction company on the Gold Coast Australia and is currently enrolled as a
part time student at the Southbank Institute of TAFE for a diploma in
Engineering (Computer aided Drafting). Nerissa travelled Australia and lived at
Yulara (Ayers rock) before settling for 6 years in Melbourne and meeting her
husband. She has interests in arts and cultures.  She has interests in arts and
cultures. Nerissa and Roby have a beautiful 4 year old daughter
#2004: mobile 0422 194 314 #2005: PO Box 1913, South Hedland, WA   6722.


m in Fiji sp-Robert PALE (10.7.77 Auckland) Roby was raised in Melbourne
Australia by his Tongan parents. He has played rugby union since he was 7; he
played for the state of Victoria and Box Hill Rugby Union club. He has played
against Scotland, Shrilanka, Australian Barbarians, and New Zealand Maoris
and in Hong Kong for the Victorian All Stars in the Honk Kong 10s. In 2004 Roby
is working as an electrician on the Gold Coast Varsity Lakes. Roby no longer
plays Rugby, however has taken up Thai Kick Boxing at there friends gym,
the Boon Chu gym on the Gold Coast.
*2004 Robina, Gold Coast QLD, Australia.

3221 11 6--(Mekika) Isabella PALE (3.6.2000 Box Hill, Melbourne) 2004: she
loves to talk, dance and is very popular at kindy with all her friends. She
goes to tennis lessons, loves riding her scooter and wants to join the Boon Chu
gym with her dada!

32212 5--Steven John "Johny" TRAYES (22.1.1977 Auckland) He runs his own soft
furnishings business on the Gold Coast Australia that furnishes homes locally
and internationally. He has been in one movie as a fighter because of his
martial arts skills. He won the light weight division naturals in the Mr
Australia body building competition. 2000: Burley Heads, Queensland, Australia.
*2004 Southport, Gold Coast QLD, Australia

[3221  4--Stephen William TRAYES (31.3.1938 Auckland)]:
m2 28.4.1988 Port Hedland, Western Australia sp-Carol CAIBANANG (28.7.1952
 Bokitnon, Mindanao, Phillipines) Port Hedland is 1200m N of Perth.

3222  4--John Arthur TRAYES (11.2.1941 Auckland) was a mechanic then trained as
a teacher and taught at Dargaville, Kelston, Orewa North & Whangaparoa Primary
Schools. In 2000 he is a teacher at Whangaparoa.
 
m 25.6.1983 Whangaparaoa Baptist Church sp-Kay Elizabeth HENDERSON
(30.1.1950 Auckland) Taught at Wellsford, Dairy Flat, Sunnynook &
Whangaparoa Primary Schools.  She and John and their children have
scrubbed clean the HALL plinth (monument) at Purewa Cemetery "so that
all the inscriptions can be read. John has made special flower
containers for all our gravesites... On 3 of the 4 sides are family
inscriptions to Laura, Henry [3] and Harry [36] HALL; and there also
lie the ashes of Flo [33]... there is a grave site very near
containing the remains of Sylvia [32], James [32h] and Arthur [324]
FARRAR and the ashes of Ethel [322] and Billy [322h] TRAYES... The
HALL plinth is in need of a lot of repair, much of the concrete
surround is broken and a huge pohutukawa branch is growing through."
Kay taught Tracy HASLAM [31131] above at Sunnynook Primary School "an
absolutely delightful pupil".  3 weeks after a letter from their US
cousin and researcher on the TRAYES family, Donal TRAYES email
wb4cvh"att"ithink.net , "we had a phone call from NEXT magasine (that)
we'd won the Royal Doulton Trip to London Competition I'd entered in
the magazine William and Catherine gave me for Mothers Day!  We
thought fast, arranged finance and decided to extend the trip prize to
6 weeks and to take the children ..." They visited the TRAYES
ancestral home in St Teath, Cornwall and their TRAYES cousins in
Saltash,Cornwall. They also traveled close to Messines, Belgium and
saw many WW1 ANZAC cemeteries in the Valley of the Somme. In London
they stayed close to Drayton Gardens where Harry would visit his uncle
Jack and cousin Margery in WW1. She also worked at the Regent Palace
Hotel in Piccadilly where Harry used to go or stay: (see his letter of
9.12.1916 at harry_to_vera.txt )
 

John & Kay were given a Good Neighbour Award for their hampers etc to locals 
in distress: - see letter to Coaster (paper) 19.2.2003.
* 2000-2009: 60 McKenzie Ave, Arkles Bay, Whangaparoa 0932, ph 09 424 3132 
  email trayes.family"att"xtra.co.nz 


32221  5--William John TRAYES (30.3.1984 Auckland) 2007 Bach. of Business.
Duke of Edinburgh Camp and School Cert (top in maths for his school) 2000. 
In 2001 he got the White Cup for Outstanding Academic Achievement for Year 12 
at Orewa College. 2003:  enrolled at Massey University, Albany for a Degree in 
Business Studies, goes to karate twice a week and is doing a fire-fighting 
course.  He went on the Gold Duke of Edinburgh tramp in the Kaimanawa Ranges 
in the April holidays- a very strenuous tramp. June 2004 awarded the ASB 
Scholarship at Massey University. The Coaster 1.2.2006: "2 future leaders 
selected from HBC: ... Wm TRAYES .. will travel to Anakiwa .. to take part in 
the 21 day Southern Cross course that aims to build an .. network of young 
leaders..." In June 2006 he completed his double degree then spent 2 months at 
Camp America & a Salvn Army Camp in Maine.
 2008: missionary work, teaching English & helping out in villages in China,
Mongolia & Tibet.

32222  5--Katherine Elizabeth TRAYES (25.2.1988 Auckland)
2000: in the local show "King Arthur". 2001 at Pinehurst College. Two pieces
of her art were selected for the Auckland Intermediate Art Exhibition at
Aotea Centre in November. She was photographed there with PM Helen CLARK.
In 2001 she got 10 awards at Pinehurst Prizegiving. She has had several local
exhibitions. She had art by her commissioned by the Whangaparaea School Dental 
Therapist when she was 10! 2003: she had 10 days in Japan with a group from
Pinehurst School visiting the new sister school in the country-side
out of Tokyo.  She had the honour of being chosen to do the welcome
speech (in Japanese of course). Her Award subjects were Art and Graphics & 
Design.
2006: Katherine did the Orewa Women's Duathlon & began a Bachelor of Art & 
Design at Massey, Albany. 
2008: lead singer at church.
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323  3--Dorothy Sylvia FARRAR (6.7.1914 Auckland) Enjoyed golf.

 Another photo:

* 2000: in a rest home, Rotorua. ph 07 348 3233 


m .11.1940 at Auckland sp-(Andrew) Rowan (Alexander) CARMICHAEL (22.1.1914
 Dunblane?, Scotland - .2.1985 Rotorua) They married at Gardner Street
 Presbyterian Church, Epsom with a wedding breakfast at One Tree Hill.

3231  4--Andrew Alexander CARMICHAEL (22.7.1943 Auckland)
* 2000: near Te Awamutu.

m  sp-? Separated.
* 1996: 14 Shetland St, Glen Eden ph 09 818 5625

32311  5--Michelle Louise CARMICHAEL (3.11.1965)

32312  5--Ian CARMICHAEL (7.10.1967)

32313  5--Glen CARMICHAEL (17.5.1969)

32314  5--Andrew Bruce CARMICHAEL (21.9.1972)

3232  4--Robert James CARMICHAEL (27.9.1946 Auckland - 
 c20.12.1995 Auckland) He lived at 9 Sprott Rd, Kohimaramara, Auckland.
He was CEO of the Anglican Trust Board in Auckland. A photo of him is on p97
of Metro magazine April 1992 in the article "The people of Meadowbank vs the
Anglican Church".

m1 1.5.1971 Papatoetoe sp-Louise Cecily MARKS (4.2.1952 Auckland)
 Daughter of Peter Barnseby MARKS and Phyllis Ester nee PETERS.
 She remarried Murray L EWANS. She works for Telecom.
*2000: Unit 4, 47 Moana Rd, One Tree Hill, Auckland ph 09 636 3554 
 or 025 244 6007

32321  5--John Robert CARMICHAEL (18.10.1974 Auckland)
He and Peter have the family bible of [323] Dorothy and Rowan.
*2000: at home

32322  5--Peter Rowan CARMICHAEL (8.8.1977 Auckland)
*2000: ph 09 623 7151

[3232  4--Robert James CARMICHAEL (1946-1995)]:
m2 Auckland  sp--Lesley No children. Died in a scuba accident in the 
 Mokohinau Islands off Whangarei coast.

[3232  4--Robert James CARMICHAEL (1946-1995)]:
m3 Auckland  sp--Judy A (-c1988) In 1995 phone book at 8 Piccadilly
 Place, Kohimaramara. In 1996 at 9 Sprott Rd, Kohimaramara, Auckland.
*2000: Matakana

323221  5--Jamie Elizabeth CARMICHAEL (10.2.1988 Auckland)
323222  5--Robert Paul CARMICHAEL (13.9.1989 Auckland)

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324  3--Arthur James FARRAR (c1913-24.10.1938 Auckland) From his parents' 
family bible: "Our only son, so loved and respected by all - Oh God,
Thou tookest our son our loved son - Teach us to say - `Thy will be done'.
Oct 24,1938 at 6.15pm after a months sickness - a germ caught 6 months before,
settled on kidneys undiscovered till too late. Died courageously, loving us, 
joking between pains - our son Arthur `noble,good'. (Hypernephroma). Interred
at Purewa." He died at his parents home. On 8.2.1939 his mother wrote "On the
night of Monday 6 Feb '39 I dreamed of Arthur as his spirit was leaving his 
body - I saw his eyes again, as then, full of astonishment, - I looked where
he was looking & lo - a green field of soft luscious grass of such a wonderful
green - not a break - on the right side beautful restful trees - in front 
softly undulating hills - there was a peace, a beauty about those hills that
words of mine cannot describe." There is a bronze plaque for him downhill of
the HALL plinth.
 Obits ex 3215 via KT: 
.FARRAR On Oct 24 at his parents' residence 86 Taumata Rd, Owairaka son of
James & Sylvia FARRAR late of Clevedon & loved br of Marjorie, Ethel & Dorothy 
aged 25. Service will be held at the above address 11am tomorrow Wed. funeral
leaving afterward for Purewa Cem. Friends please accept this intimation.
.FARRAR In loving memory of dear Arthur who passed away Oct 24 1938. Deep in
our hearts a memory is kept of one we loved & will never forget. - Inserted by
Dorothy [323] & Rowan.
.FARRAR In loving memory of dear Arthur who passed away Oct 24 1938. Deep in
our hearts a memory is kept of one we loved & will never forget. - Inserted by
Dorothy [323] & Rowan.
.FARRAR In loving memory of Arthur who passed away on Oct 24 1938. Ever
remembered. - Inserted by Ethel [322], Billie [322-sp] little godson Stephen  
[3221] & John [3222].
.FARRAR In loving memory of Arthur who passed away on Oct 24 1938. A day of
remembrance. - Inserted by Eileen & Mr & Mrs ROWLANDS. [His fiancee?]
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33  2--Florence Henrietta Rathbone HALL (1882 Auckland-13.2.1972 North Shore?)
Harry mentions her a lot in harry_to_vera.txt For example on May 16th 1917:
"How is FLO? I hear from her often. She sent me some lovely letters and photos.
Tell her I often write and am doing so again tomorrow. Yes, I remember the 
house at the corner of VAUXHALL ROAD and V. TERR."
  Enquiries"att"purewa.co.nz noted 25.10.2005: "the ashes of Florence Henrietta 
WILSON were interred with Laura HALL on 12th April 1972.  No other burials or
interments have taken place in either of the plots. Placement of a plaque at 
this site is permitted..." Block F 38, Purewa Cemetery. 
  www.purewa.co.nz gives Florence Henrietta WILSON Date of Service 15.2.1972
Funeral Director H Morris Funeral Services, P O Box 36-273,Northcote,AUCKLAND
Ashes Disposal 	 Interred 12 Apr 1972 Block F 38 Plot 105.

m1 20.10.1909 at her father's home in Park Rd West,Auckland sp-George BRAMBLEY 
(1885 Auckland-1951) by William Gray DIXON, MA. Witnesses were her sister
Eveline and Archibald HASSINAPE?, Waimaremoana?, Arawa St. Divorced 25.8.1928.
(He is 567 on the BRAMBLEY tree at 8 below.) Their wedding certificate gives 
their occupations as dressmaker and glass beveller, and that of her father as 
engineer. The birth certificate of their daughter Betty in 1914 lists their 
address as Buchanan St, Devonport. 

Rates Records show Henry HALL owned a dwelling on the corner of Vauxhall Tce 
and Vauxhall Rd occupied by Geo BRAMLEY (sic).   -Kay T 2002. 

The death certificate in 1918 of their son 
Leslie lists his occupation as soldier. The marriage was dissolved by degree 
absolute 25.8.1922.

331  3--Raymond Hall "Buster" BRAMBLEY (15 or 20.11.1911 Auckland
 -.8.1980) Won a scholarship to Kings College, Auckland. Lost a leg in WW2.
Law clerk. Listed as shipping clerk on both marriage certificates.

m1 13.9.1939 St Peter's Church,Takapuna sp-Gloria Kathleen TUCKER (Wellington) 
daughter of Edwin George TUCKER, clerk and Christina May nee COLE of Takapuna.
Witnesses Wm T MECKLE, Devonport, merchant and CR MURPHY, Devonport, married.
Divorced 14.3.1947.

m2 11.7.1947 Registrar's office, Auckland sp-Audrey Lucey PRESTON (1922 
Christchurch-1993 Auckland) daughter of Aubrey PRESTON salesman and Myrtle
Elizabeth nee DEMPSTER of Christchurch.
She lived at 82 Tautari St, Orakei, Auckland.

3311  4--Anne Elizabeth BRAMBLEY (10.7.1948 Auckland) B.A. in Sociology.
In 1989 Anne sent me photocopies of photos of 331 331-sp 33111 33112 33112-sp
3312 332. 

m 1977  sp--Phillip James THORNLEY (9.10.1945 Wellington)
* 1999: 22 Northboro Rd, Takapuna, North Shore City 1309 ph ?

33111  5--Robert Edward THORNLEY (11.3.1978)
 Desktop publishing for North Shore Times.

33112  5--Alexander George THORNLEY (29.11.1980)
 Doing a conservation course in 1999.

3312  4--(Marilyn) Rae BRAMBLEY (6.10.1950 Auckland) Diploma
 of Fine Arts. School teacher in Devonport. In 1982 she lived at Stanley Bay. 
 In 1983 she taught at Great Barrier Island.

m 1985  sp--Robert HOWLAND
* 1995: 14 Rosecamp Rd, Beachhaven, Birkenhead, Auckland ph ?
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332  3--"Betty" Jean Elizabeth BRAMBLEY (15.9.1914 Devonport,
 Auckland-21.9.2006 Auckland) She lived earlier at 1 Leander St., Bayswater, 
Auckland 9 and 57 Norwood Road, Bayswater.
* 2000: Apartment 211/14 Oteha Valley Rd., Mayfair Retirement Village, 
 Albany, Browns Bay, Auckland. 

m St Mary's Cathedral, Parnell Auckland sp-Stuart REID (-c31.12.1984 Auckland)

3321  4--Peter Stuart REID (26.8.1937 Crowes Nest,Sydney-1990 Auckland)
 Surveyor. Worked in Tonga, Malaysia, Jamaica & Hongkong. He was 
 made a Fellow of the Royal Geographic Society for his cadastral survey of
 Tonga at age 22. In 1983 he was in charge of 500 men for the British 
 Government in Hongkong, with his own chauffeur. Died of a heart attack.

m1  sp-Rita COCKER (1940 Nukualofa,Tonga-1994 Hongkong)
 Greatgranddaughter of Willie COCKER, first British consul to Tonga, and Joyce.
 Divorced. Insurance broker in Hongkong.
 

33211  5--Geoffrey Stuart REID (1963 Takapuna,Auckland)
Educated at Kings Prep. & Kings College, Auckland. Graduated from Westminister
College Hotel Management, London.
* 2000: 26 Hawkes Access Rd, Kaukopakopa, near Helensville. ph 09 420 5662

m 11.6.1994 Koh Samui Island,Thailand sp-Anne FRAIN (19.10.1964 Scunthorpe,
 England)
2 children.
* 1995: Hongkong

332111  6--Benjamin Peter REID (26.9.1992 Hongkong)
332112  6--Lelani Victoria Rita REID (8.3.1994 Hongkong)

33212  5--Angela Marie REID (2.10.1966 Kuala Lipis,Malaysia)
* 1995: London

m1 at Palm Springs, USA  sp-Martin HARWOOD (England) 1 child. Divorced

332121  6--Blaize HARWOOD male (c1989 USA)

[33212  5--Angela Marie REID (2.10.1966 Malaysia)]
m2 at London  sp--David (England)

[33212  5--Angela Marie REID (2.10.1966 Malaysia)]
m3  sp--?  

332122  6--Dominic (.10.99 Mauritius)

3322  4--David Stuart REID (23.5.1939 Mossvale, NSW) 
 A chartered accountant. He was an accountant for Comalco. He also had a
 milkbar and bike shop. A marathon runner. One of "the Turtles" - a group of
 older runners. In 1982 he lived at 47 Mayfair Cresc., Mairangi Bay. In 1994-99
 in Kerikeri.
* 1995: 385 Beach Rd, Mairangi Bay, Auckland ph 09 420 5823 (in 2000)
		    
m  sp--Alison LOWE divorced

33221  5--Michael Dan REID (20.11.1962 N Shore)
Was living near Mt Ruapehu.
* c/ Alison LOWE, 5 Knights Close, Knights Rd, Rothesay Bay, Auckland
 
df  sp-Lisa HARFORD
* 2000: at Piha, Auckland with partner Peter BARNES

332211  6--Zacaray REID or Zarak HARFORD-REID (c1988)

33222  5--Mary REID (16.12.1963 N Shore) B.A., Ll.B. 
 Placement coordinator at Workbridge. She works at Panmure Basin getting deaf 
 people jobs. No children.

m 17.2.1995  sp--Des

3323  4--Susan (Mary) REID (19.10.1949 Napier) She was the Under
 17 national singles & doubles tennis champion in 1965. She represented NZ in
 the Australian Junior Squash Tournament in 1964. Travel agent.
 She has photos of 3 Henry & Laura HALL. She sold her land at Silverdale and 
 bought a block of land at Waitoki.
* 2000: 31 Hawkes Access Road, RD 1, Kaukapakapa (4 km W of Dairy Flat, 35 m N
 of Auckland) Tel 09 420 5661 
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333  3--Leslie William BRAMBLEY (1918 Hamilton-14.6.1918 Hamilton)
Died aged 2 weeks. Buried by E COWIE, Anglican on 15.6.1918, Hamilton West.

[33  2--Florence Henrietta HALL (1882 Auckland-13.2.1972 North Shore?)]:

m2 30.11.1928 Auckland sp-George "Dooley" Frederick WILSON (1879 Freetown,
 Sierra Leone) of Devonport, son of George Henry WILSON, military officer,
and Annie Francis ROBERTSON. Their wedding certificate lists their occupations
as dressmaker and agent, the marriage by registrar, and the witnesses as 
Auckland civil servants VP WALLER and F NEWMARCH.
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34  2--Eveline "Evie" Maud HALL (28.7.1883 Auckland-1940 Devonport)
In the birthday book c1888 of 646 of ../rathbone/rathbone.html her birthday is 
"Evelyne M HALL July 28". In 1897 she & Harry [35] were at Remuera School &
among the 25000 Auckland children who signed the congratulatory address to 
Queen Vic on her Diamond Jubilee, 60 years as queen; also TRAYES at Coromandel
School & FARRARs at Bombay School signed. - KT.
A violinist. Studied for school-teaching. As a witness to the first wedding
20.10.1909 of her sister Florence she is listed as unmarried, teacher, Park
Road (by the Auckland Domain). They had a home orchestra on Sunday nights with 
2 other violinists. `A great mother'.

m  sp-Ernest Victor TRAYES (1890 Coromandel-c Sept. 1973 Devonport) 
For his family see 12 below. Brother of Billy who married [322] above.
 He was a stone mason and contractor. He helped build the obelisk at One Tree 
Hill "in respect for the Maori race", paid for by John Logan CAMPBELL. (It has
a plaque giving Thomas CLEMENS as the contractor.)

 He also 
 built the stone circle memorial containing the battery gun in North Head,
 Devonport in 1953, the memorial for the Tainui in the Devonport waterfront
 and the Maori memorial near Helensville. He had his own photographic darkroom.
 An excellent gymnast, coaching gymn in the 1920s in the 
 Methodist hall in Church St, Devonport. His father did the stonework for the 
 circular window in St Matthew's, Wellesley St, Auckland, a lot of church work 
 and some cemetery work. They lived at 33 Tainui Rd, Devonport.
 He remarried c1951 to Jean WILLIAMSON (Dunedin). He died aged 83.

341  3--Peggy (Elizabeth) TRAYES (24.9.1916 Auckland) Attended 
 Takapuna Grammar and Auckland Business College. Lived in Upper Hutt c1952-72. 
 Enjoys golf, bridge & walking. Until 2000: 220A Valley Rd, Mt Maunganui
* 2001: 77 Bayswater Village, 60 Maranui Rd, Mt Maunganui ph 07 575 5496 ?

m 25.1.1940 at Holy Trinity (C of E), Devonport sp-Roy Lambert WALKER (12.9.1915 Auckland -.2.1993) Attended Auckland Grammar. Did accounting at night-school. Fought in Italy in WW2 and was commissioned. Completed his studies on returning to NZ. He was an accountant with Mobil Oil. They lived in Devonport until 1951 then moved to Wellington, living in Moonshine Road on the western Hutt hills. After 40 years he retired as chief auditor. They moved to the Mount in 1972. Roy was a keen gardener. See photo of them .1.1990 "Together for 50 years" in local paper. Here is a photo c1956 of top L to R: 342w Rae, 342 Vic, 341 Peggy, 341h Roy,34hm2 Jean, 34h Ernest; bottom L to R:3421 Jan,3422 Wendy,3412 Judy,3413 Evelyn,3414 Penny,3411 Bas.

 
3411  4--Dr Basil `Bas' Victor WALKER (20.3.1943 Devonport)
Secretary of Department of Energy (1988)-see Dominion 8.10.1988 & Evening Post
22.11.1988 (photo); Secretary of Department of Defence (1988) - see Dominion 
23.11.1988; Head of Ministry of Defence (1989) -see Service, Te Awhina 
Oct. 1989; Chief Executive of Ministry of Research, Science & Technology 1991;
photos p23 of Service Oct. 1990 & p18 March 1991 of Te Awhina; 
CEO of Environmental Risk Management Authority (ERMA) 1997.
For an excerpt from http://www.morst.govt.nz/pubs/scitech/june96.htm see

m 28.1.1967 at Upper Hutt   sp-Penelope Miriam BIGGAR (26.2.1945 Upper Hutt)
Lived at 10 Kenilworth Grove, Silverstream, Lower Hutt. Penny is currently
working at Brentwood, Trentham - her 25th year there!
* 2000-2001: Apt 3c, 126 Oriental Bay Parade, Oriental Bay, Wellington.
 tel 04 384 3829, fax 384 3865

34111  5--Lance Roy WALKER (31.1.1970 Cambridge, UK) Spent 
 1992 working for BP going around NZ with the Endeavour Team fundraising for 
 Whitbread. He did an Ll.B. at Victoria University, Wellington. He works
 for Aim Direct, Direct Marketing Co., Wellington.
 lance"att"firststar.co.nz bounced 09

m 23.1.1993 at Upper Hutt sp-Heather GARRETT (Upper Hutt) She did a BSc degree
 in Physical Education at Ohio State University on an Athletic Scholarship
 in 1992, then an MA (Applied) in Recreation and Leisaure at Victoria
 University in 1994. Niece of husband of 1215. Heather is Grants & Research
 Officer for the NZ Sports Foundation ph 04 473 8796 x844
 www.sportsfoundation.org.nz They spent 1996-98 working and travelling in UK.
* 2000-1: 110 Wallace St, Mt Cook, Wellington tel 04 385 8325
 hwalker"att"sportsfoundation.org.nz BOUNCED 2005

341111  6--Caitlin Lily WALKER (31.5.2000 Wellington)

34112  5--Richard "Rick" William WALKER (8.10.1972 Upper Hutt) In 1992 he spent
6 months in England playing cricket at Yorkshire Dales. In 1994 he did an Ll.B.
at Victoria University, Wellington. He now works for the Dairy Board. This has 
involved working in Wellington, Melbourne, Bahrein in 2000 and Singapore in 
2001. 

34113  5--Craig Michael WALKER (17.11.1977 Upper Hutt) 
 He did a BSc in Information Technology at Massey University and is now
 working for Advantage Group in Wellington.

3412  4--Judith Lynley WALKER (29.11.1946 Devonport) A health
  nurse at French Pass. 

m1 c1970 Upper Hutt  sp-Gary DUNCAN (1944 Westport or Wellington? - c1989 
Muriwai) Potter. Divorced.

34121  5--Simon Gary DUNCAN (22.6.1971 Takapuna)
Fisherman out of Napier with his own boat.

34122  5--Anna Jane DUNCAN (22.9.1973 Takapuna) In 1994 she
 was overseas with the NZ rowing team. In 1995 she is training with them in
 Invercargill. In 1999 studying accountancy at Waikato Tech.
* 2000: Hamilton

34123  5--Freya DUNCAN (29.12.1977 Havlock South) In 1995 she went to Costa 
Rica for a year on a Field Scholarship. 

[3412  4--Judith Lynley WALKER (1946 Devonport)]:
m2 c1988  sp--(Blane) Roger SONNELAND (27.12.1946 Tacoma,Washington,
 USA)
They own their own bay, 1.7 hours drive from Rye Valley turnoff.
* 2000: Ngaio Bay, French Pass, Marlborough ph 03 576 5287

34124  5--(Sea) Breeze SONNELAND male (17.3.1981 French Pass,
 Durville Island)
* 2001: living at home.

34125  5--Magnolia SONNELAND (30.4.1983 Nelson OR 
 28.5.1983 Blenheim Hospital)
* 2000: Blenheim.

3413  4--Evelyn Rae WALKER (23.9.1949 Devonport) A nurse.

m 1970 St John's,Trentham,Upper Hutt sp-Donald Guthrie ESPIE (7.9.1944 
 Welllington) Son of John Guthrie ESPIE of Kaitangata near Balclutha and 
 Kathleen Mary nee STAFFORD of Invercargill. He is a chemical engineer for 
 Formica. In 1996 they lived at Codlin Rd, Waiuku then in 1998 at 23 Meachen 
 Terrace, Waiuku.
* 2000: 20B Edgewater Parade, Waiuku ph 09 235 8842 (W of Pukekohe)

34131  5--Samantha Eveline ESPIE (8.1.1973 Lower Hutt)
  In 1994 she did a B.C.A. (Bachelor of Commerce and Administration) at
 Victoria University, Wellington. She worked for Ford International and is now 
working for a communications/broadcasting company in Auckland.

34132  5--Daniel John ESPIE (3.10.1974 Howick, Auckland)
In 1995 he finished his Bachelor of Technology in Food Technology at Massey.
He worked in Invercargill and now works for a dairy company (The NZ Dairy
Coop ?) in Matamata.

3414  4--Penelope Jean WALKER (26.2.1952 Devonport or Upper 
 Hutt)

m 28.6.1975 St John's,Trentham,Upper Hutt sp-Graeme Murray COLEY (19.6.1951 
 Lower Hutt)
* 2000: 136 Waiwhetu Rd, Lower Hutt ph 04 566 1033

34141  5--Emma June COLEY (3.10.1983 Lower Hutt)

34142  5--Shelley Louise COLEY (4.9.1990 Lower Hutt)
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342    3--Victor William Hall TRAYES (6.1.1920 Pentlands, Devonport
 d 14.10.2008 Auckland) A 4th generation Devonport resident.
Attended Vauxhall Primary, Takapuna Grammar and TGS. In 1935 he joined 
Campbell and Ehrenfried Co. In 1939 he enrolled in the Army Prelim. at Narrow 
Neck. Completed his accountancy under 21. In 1935-36 he rowed
for the North Shore Rowing Club, his four winning the Sutton Cup.
He coached the North Shore Senior Rugby Team, winners of the Pollard Cup
for the "2nd 6" - see photo in NZH? c1937. In 1939 he was in the North Shore
3rd Intermediate team, winners of the Napier Shield. 

 A photo of him doing
a flip apears in 25.5.1940 NZH? raising money for the war effort under the
caption "Bugs let loose in Queen Street". Here is a photo of him dressed up as
 

 
The Auckland Star 21.7.1945 contains a photo of him "Critical moment - V 
TRAYES services ..."
  Admitted to RNZAF October 1941, flying Hudsons in 1942 and Venturas in 1943.
Flight Lieutenant in RNZAF flying bombers in Pacific. The had 3 tours to the Solomons in 1945, later flying DC3s. See 

 
  He was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross: see photo 12.9.1945 
(NZH or Weekly News?) and here is

 Awarded the Pacific Star on 4.10.1945. His service number was 415797.
He flew 1884 hours in WW2, having several close calls with death. 
He flew many missions from Guadacanal in the Solomons, and also flew to 
Bougainville and to Fiji and New Caledonia from Auckland. Here are two photos
at Guadacanal.

 He served in GR Squadrons 1,2,3,4,9 and Transport Squadrons 40 and 41. 
He was one of the Airforce team that won the Auckland Rugby Premiership in the 
Gallaher Shield final: see photo 13.10.1945 (NZH or Weekly News?). In 1946 he 
returned to work for C and E Co. He was invested with his DFC at Government 
House,  Auckland on 19.5.1949. He did a B.Comm.  He became financial adviser 
for the MYERS family, and NZ Wine and Spirits, and Commercial Manager for 
Campbell and Ehrenfried.  They bought a farm in Kaipara Harbour in 1977. They 
have many family photos. He published his memoirs in 1993 in a volume "VICTOR 
VICTOR" (113 pp including 63 pp of text.) I have sent copies to the Takapuna,
Auckland Central and National Libraries. Let Vic's family or me know if you 
want a copy and we'll see what we can arrange.
 The NZ Womens Weekly for 23.2.1959 contains an article on his family "So the
dolls came too" with 5 photos and one of their boats. In 1980 he was chief 
organiser of Takapuna Grammar's 50th Jubilee. A member of the Albion Lodge No 
45 until 1985. He bought a 26 foot mulletboat yacht, the Starlight. They sailed
to Kawau Island where Kristan and Andrew have a bach: see NZH? 26.10.1991. The 
photos under 34* are from Vic's collection.
  From Jan's eulogy:
Dad left school at 15, to join Campbell and Ehrenfried, a wine and spirits and 
hotel management company, with whom Dad spent his entire working life. In his 
usual modest manner, Dad reports that: 
 "I only got the job because of a very good reference from Mr Colin LITTLEJOHN,
then headmaster of TGS who said: Young TRAYES, though diminutive in stature, is
the soul of honour and I can thoroughly recommend him". I was so impressed with
this eulogy that I really tried to be that way." Dad started as an office boy 
on 15/- ($1.50) a week. "I was two years as office boy and held the record of 
Strand Arcade to the Post office to collect the mail and back in 5 minutes!"
As you all know, Dad only ever had one speed - flat out!
 Between 1935 and 1940 Dad completed his professional accounting qualifications
part-time at ATI, while still working at Campbell and Ehrenried. In his spare 
time he played tennis, rugby, sailed boats and was a member of the rowing club.
 By the look of his photos, he also did lots of socialising, fishing and 
boating. With the outbreak of war in 1939, Dad enrolled in the army for 
training, but then decided the airforce had more appeal...
  Although he never made a big deal of it, Dad did have one very close shave 
after being hit in the wing by anti-aircraft fire. He flew many miles on one 
engine using the uplift from the cumulous clouds to maintain stability and 
ultimately make a safe landing. For this he was awarded the DFC, and although 
he would be really embarrassed by this, we would like to read part of his DFC 
citation that was sent to his father in 1945:
  "Exceptional qualities of skill, courage and determination have been 
displayed by Flight Lieutenant TRAYES, in the course of three tours of 
operation in the Pacific, during which he completed 104 operational missions...
 When one motor was out, he flew his damaged aircraft 180 miles across the sea 
to friendly territory, landing successfully without further damage on a 
half-completed air strip. He has throughout distinguished himself by his 
personal bravery and intense devotion to duty in the face oft he enemy."
  Dad, of course saw it differently. As he said in his log book, it wasn't 
about skill. It was "actually, if not certainly, a miracle from the good Lord 
that we made it safely back". In fact, he did not even include the citation in 
his memoirs, such is his humility.
  After the war, Dad returned to his old job and completed a BCom at Auckland 
University. He continued to play rugby for North Shore and the Services. More 
significantly for us, he became closely involved with the TGS Ex Pupils 
Association, where he was Secretary and then President. Because of Dad's 
connections in the hospitality industry he was able to arrange great venues 
for ex pupils' trips, and it was on one of these that he met Mum. 
 "At almost over the hill at 27 or 28, I found my perfect girl... she of course
realized I wasn't the perfect man, but I'd do."
In February, 1940, Dad proposed to Mum from his hospital bed, where he was 
recovering from a rugby injury and in the original St Peters ...
  Dad was never happier than when he was on or in the sea. He always felt you 
should visit a beach every day if you could, and mostly he did. Like everything
else, Dad approached a swim at full speed, charging down the beach, crashing in
to the waves, and heading for Rangitoto with thrashing arms and feet. For Dad, 
boating was one of life's great gifts. He built his first boat when he was 18, 
and he just kept right on building them. Dad built us kayaks, and home-made 
water skis (or shees, as he call them). We had home-built runabouts and home 
made life jackets which would have taken us straight to the bottom if we had 
ever been tossed into the drink. We had banana boats and rubber duckies. And 
the pièce de resistance: a 26ft mullet boat, called STARLIGHT...
 Mum and Dad built their house at the beginning of their married life, helped 
by Poppa TRAYES, a stone mason, and Puppa CADNESS, a plumber. It was the only 
house they ever lived in. It was Dad's pride and joy and he never tired of the 
gardens or the lovely view of Rangitoto...
  One of Dad's more ambitious do-it yourself efforts, was his project to link 
the back garden down the sheer cliff to the beach 100 feet below.  His 
brilliant idea was to acquire a ladder from the Ponsonby fire station...
  These activities were many, and as well as his day job, included tutoring at 
AIT, and membership of the Wakatere Boating Club, the North Shore Rugby Club, 
the Waitemata Golf Club, the Brevet Club, vestry membership and warden at this 
church, auditing work for many organizations, to name but a few. In 1977, he 
chaired the committee which organised the TGS 50th jubilee celebrations...
His funeral service was held at St Peter's Anglican Church, Killarney St, 
Takapuna on October 20th, 2008.
  Jan has kindly sent me his Service - stored as VicTRAYESservice.pdf
& a tribute from his grandchildren - stored as GrandiesTribute.doc

NOTE Vic flew twice in April 1942 with a close cousin Pilot Officer Terence O.
HALL at Wigram. HOW IS THIS MYSTERY COUSIN RELATED? He seems unlikely to be a 
son of 48 Leslie HALL, so would have to be the son of an unknown brother of 
4 Henry HALL that also emigrated to New Zealand.
His war record at the Defence Dept may hold the clue! Vic says they also met at
Milford, so he may have been an Aucklander, and that he died c1945.
 
m 15.4.1950 St Peter's,Takapuna sp-Rae Lois CADNESS (30.12.1927 Northcote,
 Auckland) She played cricket versus England as an Auckland Rep. in 1947-48.
 

 
A photo of her with Prime Minister MULDOON's wife at Takapuna Grammar's
 50th Jubilee is in the N Shore Times Advertiser for 11.3.1980 p2.
* 2000: 56 Seacliffe Av, Belmont, Auckland ph 09 445 6275

3421  4--Jan Kristan TRAYES (19.1.1951 North Shore)

m1  sp--Russell SOMMERVILLE (Auckland) Divorced. Works for Air NZ.

34213  5--Kim Maree SOMMERVILLE then TRAYES (8.2.1975 Takapuna) Adopted
by Gary (see m2 below) in 1980. Kim has a Dip Tchg and BEd, 1997, from 
Auckland, and is about to return to teaching part-time after taking time off 
when Asha was born.

m 13.5.2000 at the Wilson Home, Takapuna sp-Reuben David MCCORMACK (14.11.1974
 Takapuna) Reuben graduated with a BSc in Geography from Auckland in 1996, and 
is currently a Police Officer working at Auckland Central.  
#2008 in Nelson. 2000: 6 Ariho Terrace, Auckland. 

342131  6--Asha Rose MCCORMACK (28.8.2000 Takapuna)

[3421  4--Jan Kristin TRAYES (1951)]:
"Jonny is studying for bursary (a bit!), Matt has just returned from
Tahiti on the delivery voyage of a superyacht, and Kim back part time
teaching while Nana here has the baby. I'm still tramping, boxing,
working at the hospice doing biographies for patients and playing the
sharemarket online. Good fun! Also had a great 2 week kayak around
Tonga earlier in the year. ...plus stick fighting" - 27.9.2000.
In 2002 she is studying psychology.

*2003-08 ashasnan"att"xtra.co.nz 

m2 1979 St Michael's, Bayswater,Devonport?,Auckland sp-Gary J DICK (1952 
Hamilton) 

 
* 2000: 57 Tainui Rd, Devonport, Auckland ph 09 445 9681 garyd"att"ihug.co.nz
 bounced 09

[3421  4--Jan Kristin TRAYES (1951)]:
 2008 living in Nelson while doing PhD at Auckland Uni.

34211  5--Matthew DICK now TRAYES (1981 North Shore Hospital)

34212  5--Jonathan DICK now TRAYES (1982 North Shore Hospital)

3422  4--Wendy Rae TRAYES (26.9.1953 North Shore)
		    
m c1975 Takapuna  sp-Grahame Ewen SELKIRK (24.7.19  Auckland)

 
 #2008 they live in Vic & Rae's old home.
 # 2000: 33 Tainui Rd, Devonport, Auckland ph 09 445 3604

34221  5--Kelly Julia SELKIRK (6.3.1979 St Helen's Auckland) 
 Graduated 1998 from Wellington Polytech with a Diploma in Fashion Design.
 
34222  5--Claire Victoria SELKIRK (26.9.1982 North Shore, Auckland)

34223  5--Donna Gabriel SELKIRK (30.8.1984 North Shore)

3423  4--Kristin Joy TRAYES (1957 North Shore)

 

m  sp--Andrew H BROWN Lawyer with Russell McVeagh.

 
* 1995-2000: 18 Hamana St, Devonport, Auckland ph 09 445 8881

34231  5--Stephanie BROWN (1981 North Shore) Takapuna Grammar. Pianist and 
composer. Her photo appears in the NZ Herald just before 6.7.1998 being chosen
for the national composing conference ACCENT98 (Aspiring Composers Course 
Exploring the New and Traditional). She has won awards for being NZ's top 
musician in jazz imposition. She plays keyboard for Anika MOA, Nathan HAINES, 
etc. #2008 studying music in New York.

34232  5--James BROWN (1984)

34233  5--Nicholas BROWN (1987)

3424  4--Terri TRAYES (8.6.1959 North Shore)

m 1980 St Peter's, Takapuna sp-Colin Walter SWAGER (3.7.1952)
* 1995-2000: 52 Vauxhall Rd, Devonport, Auckland ph 09 445 1091

34241  5--Andrea SWAGER (4.8.1985)

34242  5--Timothy SWAGER (28.8.1987)

34243  5--Abigail SWAGER (21.4.1990)
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35  2--Harry Frederick HALL (29.5.1888 Auckland-9.6.1917 Messines, Belgium)
In the birthday book c1888 of 646 of ../rathbone/rathbone.html his birthday is 
May 29.  Second Lieutenant in the Auckland Infantry Battalion, killed in action
at Messines, Belgium in WW1.
 A face of the HALL plinth at Purewa Cemetery, Auckland is dedicated to
him. I have a button from his greatcoat. An obituary Herald 19.7.1917 ex [3215]
via KT reads "ROLL OF HONOUR - HALL On June 9, killed in action in France, 
Harry Frederick, second-lieutenant, dearly beloved eldest son of Mr & Mrs H 
HALL, Dominion Road, Devonport; aged 29 years. He died serving his country for 
the cause of humanity."
Another obituary ex [3215] via KT: Second-Lieutenant HALL killed in action, was
the eldest son of H HALL of Dominion Road. He enlisted as a private, promoted 
corporal before leaving NZ with an early reinforcement. After service in Egypt 
& France he was recommended for his command being sent to an officers' training
camp in London to continue his studies. 2nd Lieutenant HF Hall was educated at 
Grafton School & at the Training College. He was a keen yachtsman & all round 
sportsman. Previous to his enlistment he was assistant master of Epsom school.
 Handwritten ex 1215 via KT: Harry Frederick HALL dearly beloved brother of Mrs
J FARRAR - June 9th 1917 "He giveth His Beloved Sleep". 
 

Harry's war diary and letters to Vera [37], are available at http://kitwithers.fortunecity.com/hall/harry_to_vera.txt - 8 copies were made for family members in 1999 including 32 pages of material enclosed in his letters; a further 10 copies have been made 1.5.2002, 2 being sent to the Legal Deposit Office, with a view to libraries acquiring copies. These copies include the material he sent back to Vera: a vine from No Mans Land between the trenches at the front line, a menu from Cairo, a French hanky with national flags embroidered on it, ... Contact me if you would like a copy.
Here is the cover of his diary. 30kb. Each page measures 15cm by 8.6cm with a brown cover. Lines are 8mm apart and there are 2 or 3 lines of handwriting between blue lines! Handwriting is in grey or purple pencil or black ink. Note the 2 circular marks 7 cm apart on the rear cover, presumably from the pressure of 2 buttons of his jacket.

Here is the inside page. 10kb.

Here is the rear page stamped 14 OCT.1915 AUCKLAND INFANTRY 8th Reinforcements A COMPANY,D.R. KIRKER Capt., NZGA Officer Commanding A Company, 8th. 20kb

Here is a sketch of him smiling lying on corrugated iron on mud in trench; above are 5 rows marked sb (sandbag), b (brick), sandbag, brick, sandbag. Caption: Side elevation of our dugout. HARCOURT, ARMITAGE & self - safe from earth and flying fragments only. 7kb
Harry named his trench S.78 after his street: Beaconsfield St.

 WHO IS MILLY?? Harry's diary includes these entries on meeting family:
26.6.1916: On Saturday I had letters from MARJERY [31], MILL, AUNT RUTH [648 in
 ../rathbone/rathbone.html]. 
12.9.1916: 2 letters from Aunt RUTH [648 in rathbone.html] & MILLY.
4.10.1916: Went to SHEFFIELD last weekend and met AUNTS RUTH [648 in
 rathbone.html], MAUD [649 in rathbone.html], COUSINS JOE, ALF, MAGGIE
 [6491 in rathbone.html]. UNCLE HARRY [husband of 648 in rathbone.html].
Joe & Alf could be unknown children of Maud [649 in rathbone.html].
http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/ gives no Milly RATHBONE or PASHLEY but several
 Milly HALL eg Milly HALL 18 bc 1883 Birmingham Birmingham Aston   - asked BC.

WHO IS Aunt Louise [Referred to in Harry's diary for 23.11.16 and 19.12.1916 as
Aunt Louie and as Aunt Louise on 10th to last page of diary]??
  ??1901 Shoreditch, London at home of Edward MAYFORD M 53 Shoreditch, London:
Louise HALL Visitor M 30 1871 Shoreditch, London with sons Fred 6 & Ernest 4

Harry's diary p -8:
Grandparents & Gt.Gd. parents' graves (on Mum's side), Met AUNTS RUTH, MAUD,
COUSINS MAGGIE & UNCLE JACK's two lads. Saw bomb effects.
BB thinks this could be not 6 but another Uncle Jack:
 64(13)  3--"Jack" John Silas RATHBONE (16.5.1878 June qtr Eccleshall Brierlow,
 m1  sp- BRENNER of the famous Swiss family. 2 children: both died young.

 

  In memory of 2nd Lieutenant Harry Frederick HALL, 12/3343, 2nd Battalion,
Auckland Regt, NZEF who died aged 31 on Saturday 9.6.1917 ... son of Henry 
and LE HALL of 71 Park Rd, Auckland. Native of Remuera, Auckland. Assistant
master, Epsom School. Remembered with honour, Messines Ridge (NZ) Memorial
to the Missing, Mesen, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium ... 9.5km S of Ieper town
centre on the Niuwkerekestraat, a road from the Rijselseweg, N365 which
connects Iaper to Wijtschate, Mesen and on to Armentieres. ... The NZ
Division spent the winter of 1916-17 on the Lys, within sight of Messines ... 

 (Also on
another side of the cenotaph is an unrelated HJ HALL.)
 Geoff [381] has a photo of his mother Laura marked "This photo of Mum was 
sent to Harry ... when he was killed it was ..." Geoff also has by? NT BACON 4 
photos on the Thames?: 1 of Jack in uniform, another of Jack [6] & wife & Harry
[35]. Also postcard (from Harry or Jack?) "84 Cairo - The mosque on the 
Mokattam -LL".

NOTE Searching for war diaries at
http://catalogue.akcity.govt.nz/ gave among other titles NZ LAND WARS:
"Sergeant..Taranaki war diary(1860-61).." (1990) Sgt W MARJOURAM BOER WAR:
"The Boer War diary of Sol T PLAATJE" (1973) Sol T PLAATJE WW1:
"Compensations of war: diary of an ambulance driver.." (1983) GE BOWERMAN
"Chronicle of youth: war diary 1913-17" (1981) V Brittain "Unsung heroes -
inspiring NZrs" (19 ) Jim ANDERTON - includes Col W Malone at Gallipoli "The
Great Adventure" (1988) edited by Jock PHILLIPS,N BOYACK & EP MALONE WW2:
"The devil's garden: Solomon Islands war" (1992) P PINNEY "Australians in
the air of WW2" (1997) Dennis NEWTON in the Combat Diary Series - how to
access this? "The HALDER war diary 1939-42"(c1988) F HALDER "War birds: the
diary of an unknown aviator" (1966) EW SPRINGS.

(Epsom Normal Primary School put out a booklet in 1986 for their centennial.
Helen KILGOUR is in charge of archives in 2000.)
The Clevedon Museum has records and photos of Harry and also of Edward HANTON.
 

This photo by KT shows his name in the Hall of Memories Auckland War Memorial Museum.

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36  2--Reginald Rathbone HALL (3rd qtr 1897 Auckland-1.11.1969 Warkworth)
 http://www.jarrell.ca/2788.htm gives:
d 1.11.1966 Auckland at 69, buried at Waipu where his wife's family are buried.

 Grocer. He enrolled 23.5.1910 at Devonport District School No. 9455 with his 
brother Leslie 
[38]. Vera [37] is not on the register. (No. 9979 on the register is an Arthur
G HALL with a Mrs H HALL of Queen's Parade, Devonport. Also children of a Wm
HALL of Devonport enrolled: Florence May & James HB HALL in 1903, & Edna M HALL
in 1907. Perhaps HALL's Corner in Devonport is named after this family?)
 

m  sp-Meryl MCLEOD (Waipu-Warkworth) Her father's family were from
 Nova Scotia, & earlier from the Isles of Harris & Lewis in Scotland.
 http://www.jarrell.ca/2788.htm gives:
m 1922 sp-Mary Henrietta (Meryl) McLEOD b1898 Waipu,d 20.10.1963 Waipu;
 buried Waipu. Daughter of Neil McLEOD and Annie McAULAY. See that site for
Neil's family. The site is that of Don JARRELL donjarrl"att"jarrell.ca 2007,
1440 Quinsam Place, Courtenay, B.C., Canada V9N 7W4.

361  3--June HALL (14.3.1923 Tuakau, N of Waikato Heads,W of Pokeno)
 In 1987 lived at 45 Lilburn St, Warkworth.
* 1998-2001: 19 Rawhiti Place (L off Ariki), Snell's Beach, Warkworth 
 tel 09 425 4345

m  sp-`Dick' Richard Augustine MCCARTHY (28.4.1922 Remuera,
 Auckland-14.6.1993 Mokau near Hikurangi near Whangarei) They lived at
 Rothsay Bay.

3611  4--Anthony Hall MCCARTHY (28.2.1949 Narrow Neck, Naval 
 Base?, Devonport) Ground crew for Skyworks Helicopters.
*1996: RD 1, Whangaripo Valley Rd, Matakana, Warkworth ph 09 422 7367
 2000: 33 Earls Way, Warkworth ph 09 425 8432

m 1973 at Titirangi sp-Christine Joy KING (1953). Separated.

36111  5--Gina Maree MCCARTHY (1975 Wellington) Travel agent
* 1996: Auckland

36112  5--Brett Christopher MCCARTHY (1977 Wellington) He is
 an apprentice mechanic at Orewa.
* 1996: with his parents

36113  5--Deborah Louise MCCARTHY (1978 Wellington)
 Works in a bakery after doing a patisserie course.

3612  4--Stephanie Isobel MCCARTHY (1951)

m 23.4.1973 at Holy Name Catholic Church,Warkworth sp-Ralph Derek NEVILL (1951)
 They lived in Leigh Rd, Matakana, Warkworth.
* 1996: Hall Lane, Kaipara Flats, RD1, Warkworth ph 09 422 5788
 2009 rnevill"att"ihug.co.nz

36121  5--Penelope June NEVILL (11.11.1973 Warkworth Hospital) Law at 
Auckland University. Then MA in law at Cambridge. In 1996 at 88 Norfolk St, 
Ponsonby, Auckland. In 2009 a Fellow in Law at Downing College, Cambridge
 ph +44 1223 366 716, pjn25"att"cam.ac.uk

36122  5--Todd Geoffrey NEVILL (8.1.1976  Warkworth
 Hospital) Courier driver. In 1996 at 1/11 Dunbar St, Mt Eden, Auckland.
*2000: Snells Beach, Warkworth. ph 025 876 921

36123  5--Charlotte Kate NEVILL (29.11.1978) Did MCLEOD
 family tree. Was captain of Northland under 18s soccer team & Mahurangi
 College cricket team where she is in the 7th form. In 1995 captain of 
 N Auckland under 18 women's cricket team. In 1996 captain of Northland under 
 20's women's cricket team. Doing a BA/BComm at Victoria University in 2000.
*2000: Wellington

3613  4--(Richard) John MCCARTHY (1954) Was at 58 Will James Rd,
 Algies Bay, Warkworth.

m1 at Papakura  sp-Ann-Marie RICHARDSON (1954 Auckland?) Divorced &
 remarried.
* 1996: 33 Oliver St, Pt Chevalier, Auckland ph 09 846 6740

36131  5--Francis Solomon MCCARTHY (4.11.1977 Papakura)

[3613       4--(Richard) John MCCARTHY (1954)]
* 1996-2000: 5 Wilson Road, Warkworth ph 09 425 8562 (off McKinney Rd, S of WW,
 S of Mahurangi College off HW1)
 
m2 df  sp-Louise Anne HOGAN (3.12.1960 Howick,Auckland) Teaches
 at Leigh Primary School.
* 2000: 10 Burrows Ave, Parnell, Auckland ph 09 377 9422

36132  5--Sam MCCARTHY (24.2.1988 Auckland National
 Womens Hospital)

36133  5--Lana Nicole MCCARTHY (13.5.1996 North Shore Hospl.)
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 

362  3--Alexander "Alex" McLeod HALL (3.6.1924 St Heliers Bay, Auckland
-5.12.2006 Auckland Hospital) His funeral seervice was held at HALL's Beachfront
Reserve, midway along Williams Ave, Algies Bay, 9.12.2005. Obit. NZ Herald 
8.12.2005.

m  sp-Edith Dorothy "Dot" LEATHWICK nee STUBBS (17.9.1925 Warkworth)
1996: 25 Will James Av, Algies Bay, Warkworth ph 09 425 5573
# 2009: 2 Dalton Rd, Snells Beach. dotty25"att"xtra.co.nz bounced 09

3621  4--Mark LEATHWICK (20.5.1955 Warkworth, d by 2005) Son by Dorothy's
 1st marriage.

m 1985 Whangarei  sp-Linda Joy MCDIVITT (28.5.1955 Whangarei)
* 1996: RD3, 9 Deborah Rise, Bonshaw Park, Taupo ph 07 378 2942

36211  5--Thomas LEATHWICK (28.11.1989)

36212  5--Jared Mark LEATHWICK (3.8.1992 Rotorua)

3622  4--Timothy McLeod HALL (5.12.1963 Auckland National Womens Hospital) 
Commercial fisherman. Does skijack charters and longlining for Snapper. 
He has met bronze whalers, makos and school sharks. He uses ikijimi (spike and 
ice slurry) to ship fish to Japan.
* 1995-2001: 144 Ti Point Rd, RD 5, Warkworth ph 09 422 6184

3623  4--Sandra "Sandy" Louise HALL (7.8.1963 Auckland)
Was at Royal Rd, Massey, Auckland. Works at Auckland Savings Bank.

m 23.11.1991 at parents' garden in Algies Bay,Whangaparoa sp-Peter Alan HUDSON 
(14.2.1959 Warkworth) Farmer. Ran for Rodney District Council.
*1996-2000: RD4 Tauhoa, Warkworth Exchange. Ph 09 422 5529
 They made a CD of family photos. Gillian has a copy.

36231  5--Blaine Kendall HUDSON (3.8.1993 North Shore)
36232  5--Jordyn Alex HUDSON (17.8.1996 National Womens)
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

363  3--Laura Mary Sheila HALL (17.6.1928 Whangarei-5.l.l997 New Plymouth)

m l.1l.l950 Takapuna sp-Peter William FRANCIS (28.8.1927 Auckland) Justice of 
the Peace. Member of fhe Pharmaceutical Society. pharmacist. Francis pharmacy 
Ltd is at 553 Devon St E, Fitzroy, New plymouth ph/fax 06 758 2979. Son of Valma.

 

He remarried on 22.5.1999 at New Plymouth
sp-Wilson Alexandra HINTON nee SCHAW (12.11.1934 palmerston North) She has 4 
children and 8 grandchildren by her first marriage.
* l996-2001: 35A Breakwater Rd, New Plymouth ph 06 751 0476

3631  4--Christine Mary FRANCIS (27.8.1951 Paparoa) Paparoa is N of Auckland
between Maungaturoto and Ruawai.

m 13.1.1979 at New Plymouth sp-Bryan WOOD (26.6.1947 Whakatane)
* 2000-1: 57 Goulstone Rd, Whakatane ph 07 308 6724
	
36311  5--Tania WOOD (l977) 

363111	6--Alexandra Sky WOOD (8.5.1993 Whakatane)
363112	6--Jesse WOOD (6.11.1995 Whakatane)

3632  4--Jennifer Anne FRANCIS (15.10.1953 Paparoa)

ml New Plymouth	sp-Stewart BRACEGIRDLE Divorced.

36321  5--Fiona Anne BRACEGIRDLE (9.5.1976 New Plymouth)
She did a gym course in US. In 2001 her New Plymouth fiancee raced cars in 
Indianapolis.	

m 8.3.2008 sp-Mark NICOLSON  2008: in Auckland

36322  5--Kirsty Lee BRACEGIRDLE (18.10.1978 New Plymouth)
* 2000-2008: Christchurch. 2008: kirsty.lee"att"xtra.co.nz
"We live in Christchurch and have a tool and die making business."
 
m (df) sp-Bevan John GOODE

36322 1 6--Jade GOODE b 04/05/03 a stillbirth. bur Avon head cemetery, 
 Christchurch. 
36322 2 6--Sophie Ayla GOODE b 04/04/04
36322 3 6--Coby Rylan GOODE b 24/08/06

[3632	4--Jennifer FRANCIS (1953 Paparoa)):
m2 New Plymouth	 sp-Russell BROOKING 2000: 7 Taylor Place, New Plymouth 
* 2001: 9 Rennell St, New Plymouth

3633  4--Gillian Laura FRANCIS (26.1.1955 Paparoa) 2008: 021 070 7594.
  2008: gillkeegan"att"yahoo.co.nz
m .1.1976 at New Plymouth  sp-Bernard Michael KEEGAN (Hawera) They were at 
136 Seaview Rd, New Plymouth.
 *1996-2000: 1lA Redwood Cr., New Plymouth ph O6 753 3149

36331  5--Luke Graheme KEEGAN (6.1.1982 New Plymouth)
36332  5--Tammy Joy KEEGAN (5.12.1983 New Plymouth)
36333  5--Samuel Peter KEEGAN (26.7.1986 New Plymouth)

3634  4--Graeme Peter FRANCIS (30.7.1956 Paparoa)
* 2000: 32A Birdwood Ave., New Plymouth ph 06 758 2428

m at New Plymouth  sp-Jayne Sophie ROSE (4.5.1962 England) Separated.
* 1996: 12A Marina Grove ?, New Plymouth ph 06 753 9688

3635  4--Paul Donald FRANCIS (16.5.1958 Paparoa) Spotswood College. Architect. 
Sailed in the Flying Dutchman in the World Contest in Italy etc in 1989. 
New Plymouth Daily News 11.1.1995 (with photo): Fighting spirit pays off for 
yachtsman. - He won 3rd place in the Flying Dutchman World champs off Adelaide. 
Broke his back at 16 in a car accident & had to learn to walk again. 2 years later
he won a national title. Lived at Hurstmere Rd,Takapuna, Auckland

m Auckland by Dean RYMER sp-Jane BECA (Auckland)
* 1996-2000: 33 Telephone Road, Birkenhead, Auckland tel 09 419 1113 
 Work 09 486 4889, 8A The promenade, Takapuna.

36351  5--Vickery Laura Beca FRANCIS (1993 Auckland)
36352  5--Harrison Paul FRANCIS (26.9.1995 Auckland)
36353  5--Julia FRANCIS (6.8.1996 Auckland)

3636  4--Adrienne June FRANCIS (13.1.1966 New Plymouth) Worked at Cairns Yacht 
Club, Cairns, Queensland, Australia. 1996: N of Sydney, NSW, Australia
* 2000: North Arm Cove (N of Newcastle)

m 1.1.1997 New Plymouth sp-Uli NEISWANDT (Germany)

36361  5--Arlee NEISWANDT female (14.1.1999 Newcastle,NSW,Australia)	
36362  5--Isabella NEISWANDT ( .11.2000 Newcastle,NSW,Australia)	 
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37  2--Vera Elizabeth Rathbone HALL (14.7.1897 Auckland-18.6.1970 Auckland)
The WW1 letters to her from her brother Harry are addressed to
 Miss Vera B HALL, c/o UTTING & Coy, Ferry Buildings, Auckland (26.10.1915
  -25.4.1916)
 Miss Vera B HALL, "Lebu", Dominion Road, Devonport, Auckland (1.1-31.10.1916)
 Miss Bar HALL, Lebu, Dominion Road, Devonport (24.5.1916)
 Mrs Vera RUSSELL, c/ Mrs H HALL, "Lebu", Dominion Road, Devonport (29.11.1916)
 Mrs V./Rex RUSSELL, No 1. Lover's Walk,Cheltenham,Devonport (21.1-6.4.1917)
 Mrs R. RUSSELL, Derby Street, Devonport (23.3-16.5.1917).
For more on these homes see above under Vera's mother Laura.
  Geoff HALL [381] holds postcards from Vera. One from Hamilton: "Dear Mum,
Just a pc to say I'll be home mon next. Have had a nice rest & enjoyed myself
very much. My love to all at home, Vera xxxxx". One of Junction Hotel, Thames:
"Dear Dad, o you recognize this place? Was sorry to hear from Flo that you had
the flu. Are you quite recovered? Returning tomorrow I think. Love from Vera."
Another of Seddon St, Waihi: "Dearest Dad & Les, Came through yesterday to here
by motor - very interesting passing through the goldfields - going on to Thames
thro' pm. Have you seen Flo & the baby? It is so lonely without baby.. Lover 
from Vera".

Death certificate: Vera Bessie RUSSELL of 19 Cathedral Place, Parnell, died at
 25 Ventnor Road,Remuera of myocarditis - several months, etc; daughter of 
 Henry HALL builder & Laura nee RATHBONE; married at age 22 at Auckland to 
 Rex RUSSELL; cremated at Purewa 20.6.1970; living issue F age 52.
 www.purewa.co.nz gives: Vera Bessie RUSSELL, Serial No 	 18775
Date of Service 20 Jun 1970
Funeral Director Sibuns Funeral Advisors, 582 Remuera Road, Remuera, AUCKLAND
Ashes Disposal 	 Returned

 

m 1916 Auckland sp-"Rex" Reginald Frank RUSSELL (28.2.1895 Whitstable, Kent
-22.8.1978 Auckland) 
Death certificate: Reginald Frank RUSSELL retired company manager, aged 83; 
of Selwyn Village, Pt. Chevalier; died 22.8.1978 at Christ's Private Hospital,
Pt. Chevalier; b 28.2.1895 at Whitstable, Kent; 66 years in NZ; son of Frank 
Henry RUSSELL civil servant and Alice Olivia nee HARFORD; m1 at age 21 to Vera 
Bessie HALL; m2 at age 79 to Robina Viola CREAGH formerly LYTTLE; cremated 
24.8.1978 at Purewa; cause of death bronchopneumonia 4 days, Cor. Pulmonale 
years, lung disease years; Watney Sibuns Sons funeral directors, Auckland.

He was advised to leave England for his health. Sailed from Port of London 
to Wellington in 1912 on the Karamiko?. Worked on horseback as a salesman.
In 1927 lived at Maungawhau Rd, Newmarket. In 1935 an accountant at 1 Albury
Ave. Became General Manager of Associated Bottling Co., Khyber Pass, 
Newmarket. President of Rotary Club. President of the Remuera Bowling Club.
Freemason: he was a Junior Warden of the Maungakiekie Lodge, No 373, 
Auckland. "He was a very good ritualist & the first floor member in Ara's 
100 year history to deliver ritual charges in the Lodge. This work had been 
previously restricted to Past Masters who were far more experienced." 
Steward, President? & Lifemember? of Avondale Racing Club.
They lived at Devonport and from c 1943 at 19 Cathedral Place, Parnell, 
Auckland. After Vera died he remarried Robina CREAGH nee LYTTLE: they lived
at Selwyn Village, Auckland. 

 
 www.purewa.co.nz gives: Reginald Frank RUSSELL, Serial No 	 34423
Date of Service 24 Aug 1978
Funeral Director Sibuns Funeral Advisors, 582 Remuera Road, Remuera, AUCKLAND
Ashes Disposal 	 Returned
  

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38  2--Leslie George HALL (1901 Auckland-1.9.1960) Bur with Morva at 
Cheltenham Cemetery, Melbourne.
(In the birthday book c1888 of 647 of ../rathbone/rathbone.html there is an 
 entry "LE Hall Sept 28." Possibly someone else.)
He enrolled 23.5.1910 at Devonport District School No. 9456 with his brother
 Reg 45. Mum has his photo in military uniform c1915. He built houses.
He came to Australia is the 1930's and never went back to New Zealand. Flo [33]
kept in touch with him.

 Geoff [381] has letters 17.3.1931 (the day Henry d) & 20.3.1931 to Leslie G 
HALL c/ The PO, Manurewa from Douglas D VICKERMAN, Land & Estate agent & 
valuer: "... with regard to the rate notice you have sent me in connection with
the farm, I had better pay this out of the next rent due on the 20th.
  Geoff [381] has his postcard album. This includes a photo of "Cousin Olive,
Aunt Jennie's eldest girl, Stratford upon Avon R." Olive and Jenny are 
6471 Olive Jeannie PASHLEY b 1891 Birmingham, and 647 Sarah Jane "Jenny" 
RATHBONE b1863 Sheffield, of rathbone/rathbone.html 
 Some bio from Geoff: Les came to Oz about 1935. Quite a dapper chap, he 
always dressed well. He was very entrepreneurial. He won a contract to Myer to 
make mousetraps & skipping rope handles. He started AM HALL & Co, a real
estate business in Camberwell (his mother's initials). He made a kitset dinghy 
- Meiers ordered 50.
  He had a bach at Rye on the Mornington peninsula. Les built a Canadian canoe
when Geoff was 8. Then a 12' klinker (a ship's pinnace) of kauri with a gaff
rigging. Later Geoff rebuilt it 3 times. 
 In 1939 Les joined up for WW2. He was barracked in Victoria then went to 
defend Darwin. He was debunked in 1945, coming out ill. But it took years for 
his widow to get a war pension.
  Morva's niece Graeme REES-JONES met Les in Melbourne at the end of WW2, &
called Les Pop after Popeye, to distinguish him from Morva's brother Les.
After Geoff was born, Graeme came to live with them in Camberwell. Graeme did 
the bookwork & found that Les had been swindled of a large sum of money by 2 
colleagues.
  When Geoff was 15 he & his dad rebuilt a 1947 Morris Minor together.
Les had a series of businesses. He sold Vauxhalls in Seymour. He was 
hospitalized several times. "Mum wouldnt drive so I drove 50 miles in school 
uniform to see Dad in hospital." Les died 1960 in Heisenberg military hospital 
after his leg was drained with tubes & leeches. He had a bad heart.

m 17.12.1941 Melbourne by her br'inlaw Will MATHERS sp-Alwyn Morva REES
28.11.1908 Horsham, Victoria, Oz-24.6.1972 Melbourne. She came from a 
comfortable farming family with a 100,000 acre farm, The Oaks, at Brimbayn,
near Horsham, Victoria.  Morva was the youngest of 9 sons & 1 dr & has ID 10 
on p24 of "Descendants of Thomas (1830-1918) & Hannah (1834-77) REES 1854-1980"
by Jill  MCDONALD, Glencoe P Bag 143, Horsham, Vic 3400.

381  3--Geoffrey Leslie HALL (26.2.1945 Mt Albert, Victoria, Oz)
c1976 Cheltenham, Melbourne, Australia.
He has his grandfather's 1879 travel diary kept on his trip from England to 
Auckland on the barque LEBU. Charmaine has typed most of it & will email it to
me for posting on this site. Geoff also has old family albums, postcard photos 
of Denton, a lodge certificate from Royal Order of Foresters for Henry HALL and many 
other bits and pieces.  Some bio: Geoff went to Carey Grammar in Kew, 
Melbourne. Les wante Geoff to be an engineer but Geoff liked drawing. He did a
commercial art course. After Les died he moved to Highatt public school in
Melbourne then became an apprentice motor mechanic at City Brakes, Beaumaris,
Vic. then at 2way Motors where his leg was crushed in an accident. After rehab
in Kew he learned to walk again & at 21 was put in charge of 22 men at the 
Melbourne branch. He married Charmaine & repiled their first home in 
Sandringham. He joined a cabinet making business & built some elaborate 
furniture. He started boat building, & built 40-50' yachts at Williamstown, 
Vic. He became resident shipwright at Hobsons Bay Yacht Club, where he rebuilt
a 50' timber boat, The Idler c1977. It was an ex pilot cutter about 90 years 
old. The Yacht Club Commodore, an ex Master Mariner, took it on an ardous 
voyage thru Philips Head, where it foundered & sank.
Geoff built yachts all over Vic. c1972-75.
  He helped fund Deep Purple to Oz for the Sunbury Pop
Festival & stage managed them. Later he brought out Queen & ran a series of
dances. He built a 42' yacht in a client front yard at Sunshine Beach, Noosa.
He built Cooters until the Tax Dept tax stopped that. He had a cabinetmaker
business Licence To Joinery, then a kitchen shop in Noosa, The Cooking Company.
Then restaurants? Retirement & The Stock Market, & the present Coconut Grove.
In 1967 Geoff had a 1946 MG TC. Geoff built a yacht Galadriel. At 
one time Rob THORNTON was living on it & had been gill fishing in its dingy. 
But police couldnt board the yacht without the captain's permission (Geoff's) 
as the yacht was registered with Lloyds.  
  His current boat Salt Aire is a 48' power boat. After closing Australia
Boat Building, he did concept & design for dozens of restaurants & shops in
Noosa, including these restaurants: Sales, Rococcos, Barnardos & Sheraton Beach
(gone now). He also designed, built & renovated houses.
  Geoff has 1500 phantom comics.
  1st contact 13.5.2005. 2009: tel 07 5447 5404 Noosa, cell 0417 475 404
Box 449 Noosa Heads, Qld 4567  geoffandchar"att"ozemail.com.au 

m 12.4.1969 Cheltenham, Melbourne, Vic. sp-Charmaine Anne CLARKE 9.9.1948 
Melbourne.
Photos of their home at 28 Arkana Drive, Noosa Heads are in the photogallery at
 www.dowlingneylan.com.au
 http://www.dowlingneylan.com.au/html/for-sale/35/446/noosa-heads

  Geoff writes (21.1.09): We have had an incredibly busy year with the purchase
and refurbishment of a restaurant called Coconut Grove Bar Bistro at 
8/46 Duke St, Sunshine Beach, 4567 tel 07 5449 2333. 
Check out our website www.coconutgrovebistro.com. We also had a trip to 
France for Char's birthday in September which was fantastic.
  We also have a cruising motor launch called Saltaire which we go north on 
whenever we can, usually to the Whitsunday Islands although not as often as we 
would like now that we have the restaurant.
We have our house in Noosa on the market at the moment...
- That link includes a photo of them. Their  restaurant is at 8/46 Duke St,
Sunshine Beach, Queensland 4567; ph 07 5449 2333.
 I had the pleasure of meeting Geoff & Charmaine 8-10.5.09 at Noosa & his
maternal cousin Graham g.rees-jones"att"westnet.com.au
 There home is on the market & here is a link to photos of it:
http://www.dowlingneylan.com.au/html/for-sale/35/446/gallery/noosa-heads 

       ..................................................

4  1--Sarah Ann HALL (b 20.6.1856 at 6 Rowcroft Place, Stockport, Chester) 
freebmd: Births Jun 1856 HALL Sarah Ann Ashton 8d 489.

 

 
  1861 census with parents: dau U 4 1857 cotton weaver b Stockport, Cheshire.
(1861 has anaother SAH b 1856 Stockport to James & Mary!)
  1871 census: age 15; hat trimmer in Denton with her parents and brother John.
  1881 with husband below b 1858 Cheshire.
  1901 census widow - see after her m.
  1916 diary of Harry HALL [35]: she is Aunt Sarah Ann: Mrs J LONGWORTH,
No. 8 Flaxton Rd, Plumstead Common, Woolwich, England. (Woolwich is on the
south bank of the Thames east of Greenwich.)
 Geoff [381] has several photos of her in Henry's photo album, labelled
"Sister Sarah an Hall 1853"; "H HALL & Sister Sarahan Hall 1855" - on the back:
Th. M WATERS photographer 380 Stockport Rd, Manchester; "My sister Sarah Ann
1918" - reverse: "to my dear brother & sister with love from sisterSarah Ann", 
CW ASH Electric Studio, 48 Powis St, Woodwich - she is aged c60.

m Sep qtr 1875 St Paul's church, Portwood, Stockport,Cheshire (ref St11/3/224
- cert. available ex Stockport Registrar) spp-John LONGWORTH b 1853 Denton,
Lancs; b regd Dec Qtr 1851 Ashton 20/45 - VL. d 1881-1901
 The nearest I see in IGI is in C007135 1847-57:
JL bp 14 MAY 1855 Saint John, Preston, Lancs to John & Hannah.
Marriage regd Stockport GRO ref vol. 8a p99 found at freebmd.rootsweb.com/
Joiner on 1906 m cert of dr Gertrude 22 below. Death regd December Qtr 1887 
Ashton 8d382 - VL vera.longworth"att"virgin.net 2005. Vera is doing a One Name 
Study of LONGWORTH. 

  1881 census Dwelling 153 Holland St, Denton, Lancashire:
Name Relation Marital Status Age  Birthplace 	       Occupation    ID
John LANGWORTH     Head M 28 1853 Denton, Lancashire  	 Joiner  	  
Sarah A. LANGWORTH Wife M 23 1858 Cheshire  	         Hat Trimmer 4 	  
John LANGWORTH     Son     2 1879 Denton, Lancashire  	 Scholar     41	  
Gertrude LANGWORTH Daur 8m .7.1880 Denton, Lancashire                42
 (1881 also lists 67 LONGWORTH in London/Middlesex, 0 in Woolwich, 64 in 
Midlands West covering Sheffield.)
 John died in 1887 in Manchester aged 35; his widow and surviving children 
moved to London sometime between 1887 and 1901. -VL.
  1891 7 Melburne St, Denton, Lancashire:                           ID
Sarah Ann LONGWORTH Head W 32 1859 Stockport, Cheshire  Hat Trimmer 4
John LONGWORTH      Son  S 12 1879 Denton, Lancashire   Scholar     41
Gertrude LONGWORTH  Daur S 10 1881 Denton, Lancashire   Scholar     42
Willie LONGWORTH    Son  S  8 1883 Denton, Lancashire   Scholar     43
  1901 Haydock Road, Deptford St Paul, London ex VL:                    ID
Sarah Ann LONGWORTH Head W 43 1858 Stockport, Cheshire [No occpn]       4
John LONGWORTH      Son  S 22 1879 Denton, Lancashire Silk hat shaper   41
Gertrude LONGWORTH  Daur S 20 1881 Denton, Lancashire Felt hat trimmer  42
William LONGWORTH   Son  S 18 1883 Denton, Lancashire Wheelwright       43
Fred KINDER      Boarder S 25 1876 Gee Cross, Cheshire Menchanic turner sp-42!

 
41  2--John "Jack" LONGWORTH (1879 Denton, Lancashire) b regd Sept Qtr 1878  
Ashton vol 8d p 545 - VL.  1881 with parents.  1891-1901 with mother.
1901 silk hat shaper.

42  2--Gertrude LONGWORTH (b c July 1880 Denton, Lancashire) 
Birth regd Sept Qtr 1880 Ashton 8d 520 - VL. (Ref Den/27/2 Tameside Registrar
-SS)  1881 with parents.  1891-1901 with motther. 1901 Felt Hat Trimmer.

m 14.4.1906 Walthamstow Parish Church [St Marys], Essex [north London, E17]
 sp-Fred KINDER b 1876 Gee Cross, Cheshire.
freebmd: b Sep qtr 1875 Stockport 8a 22. # HE IS 1125 of family at 17.1 below.

 I have m cert: he 30 bachelor turner son of Hugh KINDER hatter;
she 25 spinster dr of John LONGWORTH joiner; both residing at 41 Winchester Rd
witnesses John LONGWORTH & Emily MATHERS; after banns by curate C J WATKINS
Marriage regd June Qtr 1906 West Ham 4a 344 - VL. Not at freebmd 2005 Jan.
  To get to St Marys, take the Victoria Line to the last stop at Walthamstow 
Central,then it's 5 minures walk up St Mary Road and through the footpath at 
the top,or walk up Church Hill and turn right at the top. - Norman B.
  For a sketch & map of St Marys, Church End (E of Walthamstow tube station),
 see http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/tq/tq38/stmarys/
For Walthamstow see http://www.london-footprints.co.uk/wkwalthamstow.htm
 http://www.hmsweb.co.uk/html/yourstories.html 
 http://www.walthamstow.towntalk.co.uk/mainmap.php
 http://www.musicland26.freeserve.co.uk/index2.html rich"att".freeserve.co.uk
  or richard"att"musicland26.freeserve.co.uk 2005
  1901 population was 97,000.

 
I also have info on the history of the church from Richard stored at
StMarys1.jpg & StMarys2.jpg from a publication "Walthamstow Village" by AD LAW,
AMA published by the Walthamstow Antiquarian Society, probably in the 1970's. 
Thanks Norman B.

In 2005 there are no KINDER in Walthamstow.

   freebmd gives a huge no. of possible chn - but does not give parents.
It gives no chn in West Ham district, where their 1906 m was registered
- presumably because they have not been enteered yet, as the m does not show
there.

43  2--William LONGWORTH b 1883 Denton, Lancashire.
Birth regd September Qtr 1882 Ashton 8d 495 - VL.
  1891-1901 Gertrude & William are with Gertrude's mother. 1901 wheelwright.
m regd March Qtr 1913 West Ham, London 4a 314 sp-Daisy HM GALE ex VL.

44  2--Arthur LONGWORTH Birth regd March Qtr 1887  Ashton  8d 511 - VL.
Death regd Dec Qtr 1887 Ashton  8d 387 - VL.
       ..................................................

5  1--William HALL b .7.1860 Stockport, Cheshire
  1861 census with parents: U 8 months 1860 b Stockport, Cheshire
  1871 census not with parents so may have died.
  ??1881 Dwelling Wrigley Mill, Saddleworth, Yorkshire:
William HALL Boarder U 21 b Cheshire  Iron Moulder with Rbt WINTERBOTTOM & fam
       ..................................................

6  1--John James `Jack' HALL (bc1866 Denton, Lancashire)
(freebmd gives
 Births Jun 1864 HALL John James Stockport 8a	23 for Cheshire
 Births Mar 1867 HALL John James Liverpool 8b	248 for Lancs
 Birth Sep 1876 HALL John James	Ashton	 8d	521; the
 John HALLs b nearest to 1866 in Ashton are in 1864 & 1870.)
  1871-81 with parents.  1881 Warehouse Boy.
  1901 census - see wife below.
c1916: When Harry [35 below] went to serve in WW1 his mother wrote "Your uncle
 John HALL who is in France, 2400 [private] JJ HALL EFCASC c/ of Officer in
 charge, Boulogne Base, France ..." In the back of Harry's diary is "JJ HALL
 2400 Pte c/o officer in charge, Exp. Canteen Force, BOULOGNE".
1916: From harry_to_vera_txt: Monday August 14th 1916 8am.
 I am now in CODFORD on Salisbury Plains. Uncle is a real good chap and Dad's
 double in profile only much smaller." - That this is John becomes clear from
 Harry's entry for Thursday 24th August 1916 8.30am.
 His address on p -2 of Harry's diary was 
Uncle Jack: Mr John James HALL, 99 Drayton Gardens, S. Kensington, London SW

There is also an entry in Harry's WW1 diary:
"Grandparents & Gt.Gd. parents' graves (on Mum's side), Met AUNTS RUTH, MAUD,
COUSINS MAGGIE & UNCLE JACK's two lads. Saw bomb effects."
 This Uncle Jack does not look like his mother's brother
"64(13)  3--"Jack" John Silas RATHBONE, (1878 June qtr Eccleshall Brierlow)
m in South Africa  sp-Olga JACKSON (Swiss) No children."
 Geoff [381] has photos by? NT BACON on the Thames?: 1 of Jack in uniform, 
another of Jack & wife & Harry [35].
 Geoff HALL [381] has postcards from Jack to Henry [3]: (1) "France 1917. My 
very dear brother & family, I am always pleased to hear from you. Your letters 
are so interesting to me. I have no news I am am? am form? .. family well. We 
are on the eve of another winter & your prediction of 1914, viz The war would 
last 5 years, is coming true. The horrors of it all is everpresent. No time to 
write letter. Fond love, Jack. All good wishes." (2) from 3rd Northern 
Hospital, Sheffield.

m Mar qtr 1894 Camberwell 1d 1112a sp-Sarah Louisa A MERCHANT b1869 Birmingham.
- ex freebmd.
  ??1891 Bromborough, Cheshire with HALLIWELL family:
 John HAll boarder 25 1866 Manchester, Lancashire  Farmans labourer
  ??1891 Adwick upon Dearne, Doncaster:
John HALL        Head M 27 1864 Denton, Lancashire  Coal miner
Sarah HALL       Wife M 24 1867 Denton, Lancashire
Anice Hall        daur S 5 1886 Denton, Lancashire
Hannah Eliz. HALL daur S 3 1888 Shroggs, Yorkshire
James E HALL   Son S 9 mth 1890 Shroggs, Yorkshire	

  1901 19 Avenue Rd,St Mary,West Ward, Southend on Sea, Prittlewell, Essex:ID
John Jas. HALL Head M 36 1865 Denton, Lanc        Hat Shaper Silk         6
Sarah L A HALL Wife M 32 1869 Birmingham, Staff're
Margory L HALL Daur S  6 1895 Dulwich, Surrey                              61
Bertha NERINDER    visitor M 45 Islington, London [Her m not found at freebmd]
Bertha F NERINDER  visitor S 14 Islington, London
William H NERINDER visitor    7 Starnton? Hill, Middx
Gertrude L NERINDER visitor   4 Sidcup Kent
  [NOT 1901 Hill St, Hasbury, Worcestershire:
John Hall            Head M 29 1872 Harcrown?, Worc.  Nail maker
Sarah Hall           Wife M 33 1868 Birmingham, Warick
Florence Hall        Daur S  3 1898 Hasbury, Worc
Sarah Elizabeth Hall Daur S  2 1899 Hasbury, Worc.]

61  2--Margery Louise HALL b 1895 Dulwich, London 
(Dulwich is in the Camberwell regn district.) 
freebmd: Margery Louise HALL b regd Mar qtr 1895 Camberwell 1d	868.
  1901 census with parents.
She sent Harry F HALL [35] many photos of herself. She and her father gave a 
 lot of hospitality to Harry: see his diary entries & letters to Vera for
1916: 10.2 20.2 4.3 29.3 5.5 11.5 22.5 8.6 19.6 26.6 29.6 10.8 18.8 19.8 20.8
      24.8 12.9 15.10 3.11 and for
1917: c19.1 18.2. 
 Her address on p -1 of his diary was 
Miss Marjery HALL, 99 Drayton Gardens, S Kensington, London SW.

m ?   a diplomat - they went to South Africa according to Vera.
freebmd gave no m's for Margery Louise HALL but then in 2008 m's for Margery HALL
include
Marjory M HALL m Mar Q 1923 St.Geo.H.Sq., London 1a 800 sp- THOMPSON
Margery E HALL m Jun Q 1927 St.Martin, London 1a 1230 sp-Charles E G HARRISON
       ..................................................

7?  1--Alice HALL? of London.
"Aunt Alice" appears in photo with Margery [51] in London; she is more likely 
to be a sister of [5] John James HALL than of Aunt Louie. Not found in IGI.
 freebmd gives many eg
Births Jun 1860 HALL Alice  Ashton under Lyne	 8d	346 Cheshire & Lancs
                HALL Alice Ana Ashton under Lyne 8d	387 Cheshire & Lancs
Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1861 HALL Alice Louisa Ashton	 8d	412 Cheshire
Births Mar 1862 HALL	 Alice	  	 Ashton	 8d	389 Cheshire
Births Dec 1862 HALL	 Alice	  	 Ashton	 8d	368 Cheshire
Births Sep 1866 HALL	 Alice	  	 Ashton L.	 8d	411 Cheshire
                HALL	 Alice	  	 Ashton L.	 8d	404 Cheshire
Births Sep 1873 HALL	 Alice Jane Ashton under Lyne	 8d	499 Cheshire
Births Jun 1876 HALL	 Alice Maud	  	 Ashton	 8d	407 Cheshire
Births Sep 1873 HALL	 Alice Maud	  	 Sheffield	 9c	530
Births Sep 1876 HALL	 Alice	  	 Sheffield	 9c	414	
Births Sep 1877 HALL	 Alice	  	 Sheffield	 9c	408	...
Births Jun 1879 HALL	 Alice Stribley	  	 Sheffield	 9c	440 ...
Births Jun 1886 HALL	 Alice Beatrice S Sheffield	 9c	476	
Births Dec 1887 HALL	 Alice	  	 Sheffield	 9c	594	



3. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS & SOURCES

DW Dorothy WALKER for b date for 3 Henry HALL. See rathbone.html for more.
EP Elaine PICKARD etpickard"att"home.com 2001
KT 3222-sp Kay TRAYES Thanks Kay for all your contributions!
3215 Jane GARRETT for info she gave KT.
GH 381 Geoff & Charmaine HALL for info on the branch of 38.



4. SURNAMES AND THEIR FIRST APPEARANCE

Maiden names are indented.

Askew 31 in 3861 Wakapuaka
Beca 3635w
Biggar 3411
Bracegirdle 3632
Brambley 33 m1 1909 Auckland
Bregmen 321 in 1935 Auckland
Brooker 3632h2
Brown 3423 in 1981 Takapuna
 Buchanan 321
Burroughs 32113 in 1987 Te Mata
 Cadness 342 in 1950 Takapuna
Carmichael 323 in 1940 Auckland
 Cocker 3321 m1 c1963 Auckland or Tonga?
Coley 3414 in 1975 Upper Hutt
Congdon 32123 in 1989 Hamilton
Cooke 0
Daubney 32142 in 1993 Hamilton
Dent 32121 in 1979 Te Mata
Dick 3421 in 1975 Auckland
 Duffy 32111 in 1998
Duncan 3412 in 1970 Upper Hutt
Espie 3413 in 1970 Upper Hutt
Eastham 31
Farrar 32 in 1906 Auckland
 Foote 311 m2 in 1949 Auckland
 Frain 33211 in 1994 Thailand
Francis 363
Frederick 33 m2
Fry 31121 in 1990 Motueka
Garrett 3215 in 1972 Hamilton, [34111 in 1993 Upper Hutt]
Gatenby 3112 in 1968 Auckland
 Given 3211 in 1961 Te Mata
 Glen 321 Te Mata 1966
Hall 0
 Harford 1988 Auckland
Harwood 33212 c1989 USA
Haslam 3113 in 1969 Auckland
 Henderson 3222 in 1983 Auckland
Hodge 32
 Hogan 3613 in 1988 Auckland
 Howland 3312 in 1985 Auckland?
Hudson 3623 in 1991 Whangaparoa
Hurst 32141 Hamilton 1995
Illingworth 311321 in 1993 Auckland
 Inoke 3221-m1 1970 Auckland
Keegan 3633
KINDER 22 b 1876 Gee Cross, Cheshire 
 King 3611 3611 in 1973 Titirangi
Kingi 311
Leathwick 3621 in 1955 Warkworth
Longworth 2 London 1916
 Lowe 3322 1962 Auckland
 Marks 3232 m1 1971 Papatoetoe
Martin 32122 c1982 Te Mata
Mason 31131 in 2000 Hastings
McCarthy 361 in 1949 Auckland?
McCormack 34213 in 2000 Takapuna
 McDivitt 3621 in 1985 Whangarei
 McLeod 36 in 1923 Tuakau
 Miller 311 in 1922 Woodend
Mills in 1984 Hamilton
Nevill 3612 in 1973 Warkworth
Newton 3212 in 1960 Te Mata
Parsons 3111 in 1942 Pirongia, 32114 in 1999 Hamilton
 Preston 331 in 1947 Auckland
Rathbone 3
Reid 332 c1936 Auckland
Richardson 3613 in 1977 Papakura
Rollinson 3113 1997
 Romaine 311m2
Russell 37 in 1916 Auckland
Selkirk 3422 c1975 Takapuna
 Smith 32112 in 1988 Hamilton
Sommerville 3421 m2 1975 Takapuna
Sonneland 3412 m2 c1988 Marlborough
 Soper c1990 Hamilton
[Sparks witness 1877 to m of Henry & Laura]
 Stubbs 362 in 1960s Auckland
Swager 3424 in 1980 Takapuna
Thornley 3311 in 1977 Auckland?
Trayes 322 in 1933 Auckland, 34 1890 Coromandel
 Tucker 331 in 1939 Takapuna
Turner 3214
Turpin 3213 in 1969 Hamilton
Walker 341 in 1940 Auckland
Williamson 34h
 Wilson 33 m2 1928 Auckland
 Woodford in 1991 Hamilton

5. PLACE NAMES AND THEIR APPEARANCE

The numbers refer to the HALL tree above, except those starting R refer 
to 

 & those starting A to the ASKEW tree at "7." below.

A slash / after the person's number indicates that the person has moved from
that place or has died.

**AUSTRALIA
New South Wales, Mossvale 3322/; Sydney 3321/
Queensland, Cairns 3636
Victoria, Melbourne, Cheltenham 381
Western Australia, Perth 32133; Port Hedland 3221-m2/

**CANADA Nova Scotia 36w/

**ENGLAND ****SORT BY COUNTY!*********

Birmingham See Query a.
Cambridge 34111/

*CHESHIRE/LANCASHIRE
DENTON was in Cheshire but was taken over by Manchester, Lancs. It lies on the
 border of these 2 counties. It is c5 miles SE of Manchester today and comes 
 under Greater Manchester. By 1891 the were under LANCASHIRE prior to that 
 CHESHIRE. Denton, (CHS), Greater Manchester is  c30 miles from Sheffield.
 (This Denton is much more likely to have a hatter working there than Denton
 Otley. That Denton is a very small place on the edge of the Yorkshire Moors.
 Not somewhere to practice being a hatter. - EP 2001.)
 0 in 1871
 

 They include
                     
"Denton and Haughton" compiled by Jill Cronin and Denton Local History Society
 Jill Cronin telephone 0161 336 3989. 4 Romford Ave, Denton M34 3EJ 
                
"The History of Denton and Haughton" by Thomas Middleton 1936
                   
"Tameside in old photographs" Alice Locke (Tameside Borough Publicatinos) 
                      
"A History of the Pubs of Denton and Haughton", Frank Rhodes
  telephone: 0161 320 6857: 3 Maple Ave Denton M34 3QU 
                     
"Denton Voices" oral recollections of local people, compiled by Jill Cronin and
  Brian Pilcher
                             
Also: "Looking Back at Denton" 
                    
Further information about Denton can be found on the Tameside website
 www.tameside.gov.uk This shows a map of the area & lots of links!
One can click on Denton there. For example this gives 
 DENTON LIBRARY, Peel Street, Denton M343JY tel 0161 336 8234 
  or tel 0161 320 3202, Fax 0161 337 8931 
  EMail: denton.library"att"mail.tameside.gov.uk
 www.tameside.gov.uk/leisure/new/lh02.htm

Another book is:
 "Denton : then and now" compiled by Denton Local History Society, Manchester.
 Publisher: Stroud : Tempus, 1999. 96 p. : ill., ports. ; 24 cm. 
 ISBN: 0752418394(pbk.) 

 [Edit - repeated at 6.5.1!] For a map and genealogy info see

 http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Haughton/

The Manchester & Lancashire Family History Society office"att"mlfhs.demon.co.uk 
 http://www.mlfhs.demon.co.uk/ They will publish the 1891 census index in 2001.
They have the 1851 census on fiche. John Marsden, General Secretary wrote 2001:
These are deposited at LDS but they are in BOOK form and so they will
not supply to local centres...surname indexes only and not full transcriptions.
We can supply all titles mail order - see the web site - bookshop pages.

Had the name been very unusual, I could have done a search but there
will be too many HALL entries to make this viable. I can only suggest you
employ a local researcher and I attach some addresses below:

Manchester & Lancashire FHS Researchers' Advertisements
Research in Manchester & Stockport
------------------------
Parish registers, census, civil registration indexes, IGI, wills,
directories, countrywide census on CDROM. Efficient, rapid service,
reasonable rates. Please send SAE (or IRC) to Mrs. Madeline Best (2472),
165 Wellington Road South, Stockport, Cheshire, SK1 3UA or e-mail
madeline"att"byrne165.freeserve.co.uk
------------------------
Roots Family History Service
I have access to most census and parish registers for Great Britain. I
specialise in Lancashire and Greater Manchester area: Bury, Bolton,
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STOCKPORT [0,2,3,4,5] 1851-58 Stockport,Cheshire/Lancs

*NOTTINGHAMSHIRE
BAWTRY  1828-9 Pigot's Natl Commerical Directory p101: Saxon (bar - a boat,
try - harbour) on River Idle, good inns, 2 dissenting churches, 2 almshouses.
Thurs market. 2 fairs for horses & cattle. Population 1821 - 1027. Contains no
COOKE. p113 Nottingham COOKE Hy & Co 38,35; Rbt linendraper 21, 
Samuel shopkeeper 27, Thomas brazier 8, Thomas grocer 16.

*YORKSHIRE has 3 Ridings:
 Riding meant 'third' as in a fraction of one third, so by definition you
 cannot have four of them!
 They are geographical divisions of Yorkshire, and I suspect it was because
 of old history and the fact that it is such a large county. The old 'county
 town' of the North Riding was Northallerton, of the East Riding I think
 Beverley and Wakefield for the West Riding. Interesting to see that all
 three places are now so much smaller than several of the modern cities in
 the county. -Judith Pitchforth, Hon Secretary, Sheffield and District FHS
   http://www.sheffieldfhs.org.uk
Denton NW of Ilkley (of Ilkley Moor Ba Tat fame - Do you know the song?),
 N of Bradley, NW of Leeds, in West Riding in parish of Otley (the town Otley
 is c20m SW of Denton).
 See http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Otley/index.html
 including a photo of St Helen's church in Denton 
 courtesy of Garry STOCKDILL of http://www.yorksview.co.uk/
 Why does the Abstract of Population Census 1821 for West Riding of Yorkshire
 at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Census/CensusNotesWRY1821.html
 show most houses empty?! Why does Denton not rate a mention?
Hallam - see Nether-Hallam
London 3, 5?, 33212 37-sp/
Nether-Hallam See wife of 3, Laura RATHBONE. Sheffield. This place, like
 Upperthorpe, was apparently centred around St Mary's C of E. For more on this
 area, see Walkley under "14. Links."
Sheffield,Yorkshire (1871 census has been indexed - get from LDS) See 1.
Upperthorpe: hamlet in the parish of Sheffield and the township
 of Nether-Hallam; 1m from Sheffield according to Langdale's 1822 Topographical
 Dictionary of Yorkshire; today it is 2-3 km N of the centre of Sheffield, 
 next to Birkendale; 0
Yorkshire Dales 34112/

**FRANCE 35/

**HONGKONG 3321/ 33211

**MALAYSIA 33212/

**NEW ZEALAND
Algies Bay - see Warkworth
Arkles Bay - see Whangaparoa
Auckland (-see also Manurewa, Milford, Muriwai, North Shore, Papakura, 
  Papatoetoe, Waiheke)
  3/ 31/ 311-m2/ 3112/ 31121/ 3113/ 31131/ 31132/ 32/ 32114 3232 324/
  33/ 3321/ 3323 331-m2/ 34/ 34132/ 35/ 36/ 37/ 
  371 3711 37113 37114 37115 3712/ 3713/                38/ 
  R22 1918, A2221 1995,
Cambridge 32113
Christchurch 32121-sp/ 3213
Coromandel 34h
Devonport - see North Shore, Auckland
Dunedin 34h
Durville Island 34124/
French Pass, Marlborough 3412
Hamilton 3111 32111 32112 3212 32121 321211 321212 32123 32141 32142 37122/ 
Hastings 31131
Havlock South 34123/
Hawera, S Taranaki 3633h?
Leigh, 25km NE of Warkworth 3113
Lower Hutt 3411 34131/ 3414 34141 34142
Kaipara Flats,  NW of Warkworth 3611
Matakana, 10km NE of Warkworth 3611/
Manurewa 3/
Mangatangi or Maraetai - see Pokeno
Milford, Auckland 3215
Mokau near Hikurangi near Whangarei 361h/
Mount Maunganui 32122 341 
Motueka 3112 31121
Muriwai 3412m1/
Napier 3323/
Nelson 311-m2 31122 34125/, A0 1843,
New Plymouth 311-m2/ 363 3632 3633 3634
Ngaio Bay, French Pass, Marlborough 3412
North Shore, Auckland 31/ 31131/ 31132 311321 332 3322 33221 3311 3312 
 341/ & children/ 34121/ 34122/ 342 342w 3421
 3422 3423 3424 3635 3623 37111 37112 37131, A111887,
Okaihau near Kaikohe 311/
Orewa, N of Auckland 36112
Owairaka (near Bombay, Auckland ?) 32 in 1938
Palmerston North 34132
Papakura 3613/ 36131/
Paparoa, near New Plymouth? 3632/ 3633/ 3634/
Papatoetoe R1123 1971-78
Pokeno 3214
Raglan, W of Hamilton - see also Te Mata (in Hamilton ph directory) 3211
Rawene 31/ 311/
Rothsay Bay 361/
Rotorua 323
Snell's Beach, Warkworth 361 
Tauhoa, Warkworth 3623
Te Kawhata, Waikato 3214
Te Mata, Raglan 321/ 3212/
Ti Point, Warkworth 31131
Tuakau, N of Waikato Heads,W of Pokeno 361/
Upper Hutt 3411w 34111 34112 34113 3413/ 3414/
Waiheke Island, Auckland Harbour 3713
Waiuku 3413
Wakapuaka, Nelson 31/
Wanganui 32113/
Warkworth (N of Auckland -see Tauhoa) 3113 36/ 361/ 3611  3612 3613 362 3622
Wellington (-see also Lower Hutt, Upper Hutt) 32131 3412/ 36111/ 
 371/ 3712 37121 37122, A21-2112 c1923-95,
Whakatane 3631
Whangaparoa 322/ 3221 3222
Whangarei 322-sp/ 363/

**NORTHERN IRELAND 37121/

**SCOTLAND Isles of Harris & Lewis 36w/

**SOUTH AFRICA 31

**TONGA  3321/

**UNITED STATES R12 c1910 
California, Palo Alto 3712/

6. HALL CLUES AND OTHER HALL SEARCHERS

*1815 Stockport: in 2007 I visited the Stockport Library.
I did not look at their apprenticeship indentures 1880 D1527,1882 1887 1893 1923.
 1815-84 FJ HALL Curriers ref D1435
 1872 Worrall's Dir of Stockport.. Denton.. 
p46 has 6 HALLs in Stockport but no hatter or George or Henry
p100 hatters - no HALL; p252 hatters of Denton - no HALL
 1891 Slater's dir of Stockport: 32 HALL including 6 John, no George, no hatter
Under Hat Manuf's/Hatters are a few names but no HALL.

*1837-c1911  On 14.1.2005 I downloaded selected HALLs bmds from 
 http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/
. bmds for Ashton under Lyne, Lancs. on 14.1.2005: 1837-1937 3774 matches
. bmds for Sheffield, Yorkshire on 14.1.2005
Let me know if you want the file.

* 

7. THE ASKEW TREE - re 11 of 2. - AN EXCERPT 

0  0--William ASKEW (21.4.1797-11.9.1873)
m sp-Elizabeth HIGHAM (23.1.1803-12.12.1882)
  They arrived Nelson 5.2.1843 on the Indus.
1  1--Thomas ASKEW (1826-1875)
m  sp-Reubena RANKIN
11  2--James ASKEW (9.8.1861 Wakapuaka,Nelson-29.6.1952)
m1 1887 Devonport  sp-Mary Alice EASTHAM
m2  sp-Laura Louise HALL (-3.1.1953)
** See 11 on HALL tree at 2. above for descendants **

2  1--Joseph ASKEW
m?
21  2--Hughie ASKEW (-c1973 Wellington) Sailed a keelboat the Atlanta,
  the fastest in Wellington at the time c 1923. Married 3 times.

211  3--Bruce ASKEW Wellington ph 04 388 7615/04 386 3381 Designs yachts.
m  sp-Dawn
2111  4--Jane ASKEW
2112  4--John ASKEW Wellington work 04 386 3381 Has a sailmaking business.
2113  4--Robert ASKEW
2114  4--Geoffrey ASKEW
212  3--Margaret ASKEW
m  sp-HASTINGS
213  3--Dawn ASKEW
m  sp-GIBBINS
22  2--
221  3--Owen W ASKEW
m sp-Hazel
* Since 1995: 75 Mt Smart Rd, Onehunga, Auckland 6 ph 09 636 9040

SOURCES: 2112 John ASKEW, & 221 Owen & Hazel ASKEW.

 How does the following fit in?
Eileen ASKEW bc1897 bur Waipa Cem. 1985 age 88 
m 1917 (Thomas Josiah) Leslie RATHBONE b.3 june 1891 Qld d1985, bur Waipa Cem.
 He is 6453 of  ../rathbone/rathbone.html 



8. THE BRAMBLEY TREE - re 33 of 2. - AN EXCERPT            

From Donald MCFADZEAN: Pratts Rd, RD 3, Drury, Auckland 1750; tel 09 294 8206
     email donmc"att"ihug.co.nz
 He is also related on the TRAYES side: see 12 below.

0 0--William BRAMBLEY m 13.3.1779 Bramshott, Hampshire sp-Audrey HOLT

5 1--Barnet BRAMBLEY (24.9.1798 Headley,Hampshire)
m 24.8.1822 Headley Hampshire sp-Elizabeth STACEY

56 2--William James BRAMBLEY (2.5.1841 Bramshott,Hampshire-13.11.1901 Auckland)
 carter
m 9.4.1871 Bramshott sp-Sarah Jane PORTER 1851 Hamps-10.12.1922 Auckland)

567 3--George BRAMBLEY (1885 NZ-1951) 
m Florence Henrietta HALL (13 of our HALL tree in 2. above)

56(10) 3--Percy Richard BRAMBLEY (30.6.1893 Auckland-28.2.1917 France) 2nd
Lieutenant of the 1st Battalion, Auckland Regiment, killed WW1, died at the 1st
Canadian Casualty Clearing Station in the field from wounds received in action.
Buried at the Bailleul Cemetery, France (28.S,14c).
 Both Percy and George are referred to in Harry HALL's diary at
 harry_to_vera.txt
 

56(11) 3--Lucy BRAMBLEY (15.7.1894 Auckland-29.7.1973 Auckland) m 22.3.1916 Auckland sp-Arthur John MCFADZEAN (9.9.1885 Fitzroy,Vic-1961 Auck.) grandparents? of Donald.

9. COOKE 9.1 COOKE of Bawtry, West Riding, South Yorks [E of Sheffield] re wife of 0 at 2. 9.2 COOKE clues 9.3 Clues for Bawtry, West Riding, South Yorkshire ................................................. 9.1 COOKE of Bawtry, West Riding, South Yorks re wife of 0 at 2. IGI numbers for Bawtry are C044001 1813-1860 & M044001 1813-1855 Latter shows no HALL or COOK m's. Former gives our Elizabeth as 3 in this family: 0 0-William COOKE/COOK m sp-Elizabeth [Possible m's are: m 29 SEP 1814 Wilberfoss, Yorks sp-Elizabeth CHAPMAN M106911 1813-1837 m c1815 sp-Elizabeth both of Adlingfleet, Yorks m 24 JAN 1815 Lenton, Notts. sp-Elizabeth BIRD batch 7310704] 1829 Land Tax Assessment (LTA 7) ex Doncaster.Archives"att"Doncaster.Gov.Uk 4.4.08: William COOK occupier of a house and garden at Bawtry Cf 1871 Elsecar, Wombwell, Yorkshire: [37 min NW of Bawtry] William COOKE Head M 48 1823 Elsecar, Yorkshire Miner Elizabeth COOKE Wife M 42 1829 Elsecar, Yorkshire 1 1-George COOKE bp: 30 AUG 1818 Bawtry, Yorkshire ? George COOKE bc 1813 d regd Mar Q 1867 Doncaster. [18 minutes NW of Bawtry] ?m sp-Elizabeth 1820 Stockport, Cheshire ? George COOK m: 22 MAY 1835 Cottingham, Yorkshire sp-Elizabeth WALTON ?Elizabeth COOKE bc 1821 d regd Sep Q 1910 Bradford, Yorkshire. [1 hr SE of Bawtry] ?1861 Westgate, Tickhill, Yorkshire: [7 min W of Bawtry] George COOKE Head M 45 1816 Tickhill, Yorks House painter 1 Elizabeth COOKE Wife M 41 1820 Stockport, Cheshire John COOKE Son 23 1838 Stockport, Cheshire House painter 11 Tom COOKE Son 9 1852 Tickhill, Yorks Scholar 12 Fanny COOKE Daur 2 1859 Tickhill, Yorks Scholar 13 1871? ?1881 Warrington, Lanc. with 5 boarders: George COOKE Head M 62 1819 York Foreman (Manager) Elizabeth COOKE Wife M 60 1821 Ashton George COOKE Son U 14 1867 York 14 Charles COOKE Son 12 1869 York 15 Robert COOKE Son 12 1869 York 16 Elizabeth COOKE Daur 10 1871 York 17 Joseph COOKE Son 9 1872 York 18 Benjamin COOKE Son 7 1874 York 19 2 1-Sarah COOKE bp: 25 MAR 1821 Bawtry, Yorkshire ??1841 South Anston, Anston, Yorkshire with ROSE family: Sarah COOKE 20 1821 Yorkshire FS (Farm Servant) 3 1-Elizabeth COOK bp 12 APR 1823 Bawtry, Yorkshire d 3.12.1891, interred at Christchurch, Denton. ??1841 Barnsley, Yorkshire with family of Eleanor BECKETT 55 Yorkshire: Elizabeth COOKE 20 1821 Yorkshire FS (Farm Servant) m by 1847 [not at freebmd 2008] sp-George HALL b 1814-21 Bristol, Gloucestershire. # He is 0 at 1. above. See there for their family 1851-81. 4 1-Thomas COOK bp: 19 FEB 1826 Bawtry, Yorkshire ?1871 has TC b Attercliffe 33 min E of Bawtry; 1881 has TC b Clayton 31 min NW of Bawtry on other side of Doncaster. 5 1-Ann COOK bp: 26 APR 1829 Bawtry, Yorkshire ............................................................... Also there are 2 other families: 0 Francis COOKE m Rebecca 1 Rebecca COOKE bp: 16 MAY 1813 Bawtry, Yorkshire d 18 MAY 1817 0 Joseph COOKE m Sarah 1 Mary COOKE bp: 17 FEB 1822 Bawtry, Yorkshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------- * CENSUSES - I found no COOKE in Bawtry in 1841-51 & only 1 in 1861! I found no COOK in Bawtry in 1841. Why not? 1851 School Row, Bawtry, Yorkshire: William DAWN Head W 77 1774 Ansbertfield?, Yorks Ag lab Charles Dawn Son M 38 1813 Bawtry, Yorks Fishmonger Mary Cook Daur M? 33 1818 Bawtry, Yorks Housekeeper Mary Cook Granddau 6 1845 Bawtry, Yorks Scholar Ellen Cook Granddau 4 1847 Bawtry, Yorks Anne Cook Granddau 1 1850 Bawtry, Yorks Charles Kenshaw Lodger U 32 York, Yorks Cattle drover Thomas Daniels Lodger U 40 Scotland Cattle drover 1861 Bawtry, Yorkshire (DAWN family on same page): Mary Boswell Head W 42 1819 Bawtry, Yorks Dressmaker Ellen COOKE Daughter 14 1847 Bawtry, Yorks Scholar Joseph BELLAMY Boarder W 58 1803 Bawtry, Yorks Carpenter 1891 6 Prospect Place, Doncaster, Yorkshire: William COOKE Head W 76 1815 Cantley, Yorkshire froom? [13 min N of Bawtry] William H COOKE Son W 35 1856 Doncaster, Yorkshire Bill poster Fanny COOKE Daur S 31 1860 Doncaster, Yorkshire Housekeeper 1881 Cantley, Yorkshire (Sub-reg district: Bawtry, Reg district: Doncaster): Henry COOKE Head M 55 1826 Cantley, Yorks Ag Lab [13 min N of Bawtry] Elizabeth COOKE Wife M 58 1823 Doncaster, Yorks Annie COOKE Daur U 18 1863 Cantley, Yorks 1881 York Turnpike Rd, Bentley Cum Arksey, Yorkshire: John Jackson Head W 55 1826 Tattershall, Lincolns. Cattle dealer Sarah Jackson Sister W 82 1799 Tattershall, Lincolns. Cattle dealer's sister John George Jackson Son U 24 1877 Doncaster, Yorks Cattle dealer Elizabeth COOKE Servant W 52 1829 Retford, Yorks' [14 min from Bawtry] Housekeeper George G Jackson Son U 21 1860 Doncaster, Yorks Ironmongers assistant Jane Kirby Servant U 17 Doncaster, Yorks General Servant John Rigglesworth Servant U 27 Doncaster, Yorks Servant 1861 Balby With Hexthorpe, Yorkshire: George RACE 50 Lucy Race 48 John W Race 20 George Race 17 Jane COOKE Servant 14 1843 Bawtry, Yorkshire 1871 Four Lane End and Intake, Handsworth Yorkshire: ex Bob CUNNING 2005 William COOKE Head 31 1840 Bawtry, Nottinghamshire Carter Harriet COOKE Wife 32 1839 Bawtry, Nottinghams John W COOKE Son 3 1868 Hankskil, Notts ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- * DIRECTORIES 1832/37 Whites Dir of Notts - has no COOKE in Bawtry pp 294-6 401 405 1836/1877/1917 Kelly's Dir p65 82 88 - has no COOKE in Bawtry 1841 pollbook p162-3 - has no COOKE in Bawtry 1858 Slater's Dir of Yorks p555: John Francis Griffith COOKE Esq, Alverley Hall, Wadworth ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *1190 Bawtry parish church of St Nicholas founded. I visited there 2007. Below are excerpts from books at Bawtry Library. 0 Sir Geo. COOKE Bart of Wheatley. www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra hold 6 records on this family including NRA 9996 13th-19th cent: deeds, family and estate papers at Sheffield Archives. under GB/NNAF/F82261 COOKE family, baronets, of Wheatley. Doncaster.Archives"att"Doncaster.Gov.Uk wrote 4.4.08 The COOKE of Wheatley family in Burke's Peerage 1980: Their papers 1260-1950 are at Sheffield Archives, 52 Shoreham Street, Sheffield S1 4SP: archives"att"sheffield.gov.uk (Burkes at Nat.Lib. did not help. However they wrote 17.4.08 they can send a 2 page pedigree for £6-30.) 1 Georgina COOKE Grave in St N churchyd, Bawtry 30' from road on Wharf St corner, a flat rectangle 3 by 6'. Bur with Georgiana FRANCES [11.1.1807-2.4.1849] eldest dr of the late Sir Geo. EYRE KCB. How related? 2 El. COOKE m Richard ACKLOM of Wiston, Notts See # below. 21 Dorothy ACKLOM 1733 youngest dtr d 28.7.1762 of smallpox at 29 # 0 Jonathan ACKLOM of Bawtry m Melicent 1 Jonathan ACKLOM 22.9.1683-20.6.1700 Eaton 0 Richd ACKLOM o f Wiseton, Notts 1 El. d14.5.1817 at 89 m Hon Rbt DALZELL d29.7.1788 at 50 son of Rt Earl of Carnwath 11 El DALZELL d24.6.1819 at 52. -p56 of "Bawtry" post 1811 (100 copies made). p14 Lords of Manor VIPOUNT. p53 parish reg. starts 1656. p56 has other ACKLOM of Wiston 1758-1806; eg Col Jn of 61st Regt Foot d1806 at 74, Jonathan A b Beverley, E Riding, Yorks d 1.1.1738/9 Bawtry at 88 High Sherriff for Notts, Richd A of Wiston d28.5.1758 at 66 m El d 24.5.1772 at 70. p76 MORTON of Bawtry (Henry 8 to 1623). "New light on old Bawtry" 1978 S York. Historian, Supp.3: p22 owners & tenants, p25 names (no COOKE). On River Idle. "Discovering old Bawtry" 1988 Part 1, B History group ed D HOLLAND. Church inscriptions but no COOKE. "Discovering old Bawtry" 1989 Part 2 photos. Anglosaxon Chronicle: 685 it rained blood...,690 1st Eng. archbishop. "Bygone Bassetlaw" 1983 MA PACFADYEN photos. p8 Clarbor' 1906. p26-30 Gringley on the hill 1910-20. p458 Retford. "The archive photo'g series: Bawtry, T & W" F TUFFREY 1996. "An outline history of Bawtry" 1998 Jn ROSE p10 c616 Mercia (central English kingdom) captured Repton, Derb. 876 Danes invade; N & E England became Danish province - the Danelaw brought in counting in 12's. 954 Eric Bloodaxe K of Norse kingdom of York, dies. 1016 Swerin of Denmark father of Canute. p14 1066 Saxon K Harold 2 Godwinson of Eng. defeated K Harald Hardrada of Norway nr York. 7 days later Wm Duke of Normandy arrived to conquer him. (Normans descend from Vikings who'd conq'd N coast of France c950.) Much of the N wasted & fields salted bringing great poverty. p15 Jn de BUSLI family to Rbt de VETERI PONTE (later VIPONT) m Idonea gggdr of br of Roger de BURK. Each toft (household) paid 12p pa rent to the de VIPONTs. 1344 burials began. 1620s the lowlands drained. p24 1663 the Great N Rd turnpiked. p25 Public hangings by slow strangulation - left to rot at crossroads just out of town. p32 Bawtry Hall built 1785 by wool merchant P MITRES blocked the old N road. Last VIPONT Idonea d1334 m2 Roger de CROMWELL. 1471 manor seized by crown. BB12 Top St is a Roman road - EM FENDICK (1p) BB5 p70-72 Tree of De BUSLI/de VIPONT c Henry 2- Ed 3; tree of K Richd 3 from DESPENSER (d 16 Ed 3). p72 LISTER of Bawatry 1600-1786 p74-5 Brasses in church. BG7 Rev Jn RAINE 1860 "History & antiquities of par of Blyth" p174 VIPONT tree 1232-1334. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9.2 COOKE CLUES for Yorkshire *1504-08 Docaster [Doncaster?] ex Denise VORCE DMVSAV"att"aol.com 1998 to COOK list Edward COOKE mayor of Docaster, West Riding, Yorkshire 1504-08 *c1700 Martin-in-Cleveland, Yorks & 1721 Great Ayton, Yorkshire ex Kyle & Evelyn LONG belle"att"mwec.com 1999 to COOK list *1725 Seaton-Ross,East Riding, Yorks ex Roger RAYBORN raybornr"att"crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us 1997 to COOK list: starts George COOK,Yeoman bp 1725 Seaton-Ross,East Riding, Yorks son of George *1728 Marton, Yorks ex Peter COOK cookfmly"att"onaustralia.com.au 1997 to COOK list. Also try Frank COLLINS fac"att"tiac.net re this tree. 0 John COOKE bc1672 in Ednam, Roxburgh, Roxburghshire, Scotland. 1 COOKE a migrant farm laborer from Scotland who had settled in Yorkshire. 11 Captain James COOK b 28.10.1728 Marton, Yorkshire k 14.2.1779 m 21.12.1762 Barking, East London sp-Elizabeth BATTS Their 6 chn had no issue. 12 Margaret COOK m 1764 James FLECK Issue. *1728 Marton, Yorks ex Georges gegrenon"att"cedep.com 0 James COOK b 27 Oct 1728 at Martin in Ckeveland, Yorkshire d 1779 Hawaii m Marie JAMIAC or JARMIAC #Issue in Quebec? *1735 Seaton Ross Yorkshire ex Alan WELLER agweller"att"netcom.ca 1999 to COOK list 1 Jane COOK b 09 Feb 1780 Seaton Ross, East Riding m 12.2.1801 at Aughton, Yorks sp-William LINTON 0 Robert COOK b 10 Oct 1735 at Seaton Ross, Yorkshire m 3.12.1776 Aughton Yorkshire sp-Sarah HARDY b 1750, Thorton Pockington, Yorks *1749 ex Nancy PRIESTLEY nancy_priestley"att"hotmail.com 2002 to COOK list: Thomas COOK m Mary ROBINSON in 1749 *1750+ Yorks The GRD CD for 2000 contains the following searching COOKE in YKS: John A BURLISON 23 Kethel Rd Cheltenham NSW 2119 AUS; 1880+ Bradford S ANDERSON 52 Roseness St Palmerston Otago NZ -MOVED; 1800-1870s Leeds L BARROW 29 Lockhart Av Palmerston North 5301 NZ; 1750 Loftus *1795 Denton ex David BAXENDELL davidbax"att"paradise.net.nz 2002: Joseph BAXENDELL m 18 Oct 1823 Hannah COOKE b.1795,Denton) Joseph was a hatter and owned the Moorfield Mill in Denton. His nephew inherited from him and built the Alpha Cotton mill in Denton which was later taken over by the COOKE Brothers. I dont know which ones. ................................................. *c1806 Doncaster: [18 minutes NW of Bawtry] 1841 Ellis's Yard, Printing office St, Doncaster, Yorkshire: Charles COOKE 35 1806 Yorkshire Turner Rebecca COOKE 35 1806 Yorkshire Ann COOKE 14 1827 Yorkshire Joseph COOKE 11 1830 Yorkshire Louisa COOKE 7 1834 Yorkshire Emma COOKE 3 1838 Yorkshire Lenard COOKE 1 Mo 1841 Yorkshire ................................................. *c1806 Denton The following families from the 1841 Census, Denton contain COOKEs: ED2 Pg.23(L) Acres, Denton: Wm. COOKE 35 Hatter so bc1806 Mary COOKE 30 Ann COOKE 11 Elizth. COOKE 9 James COOKE 7 William COOKE 2 Hannah COOKE 4m ED3 pg21 New Road Denton: Joseph BAXENDELL 40 Hatter Hannah BAXENDELL 45 Hannah BAXENDELL 9 Ellen BAXENDELL 4 Thomas BAXENDELL 15 Hatter's Apprentice James BAXENDELL 15 do. do. Mary MAWDSLEY 25 Ann COOKE 15 F.S. ................................................. *1813 0 John COOK m. Ann 1 Robert b. 1813 Hayton Parish, Yorkshire m 1842 Elkhart or St. Joseph Co IN sp-Catherine LICHTENBERGER *1814-24 Yorks IGI gives 75 El. COOK(E) b/bp 1814-24 Yorks The only one bp Sheffield is 4 in this family: 0 Benjamin m Eliza 1 Eliza COOK b: 22 APR 1810 bp: 26 FEB 1812 Cathedral Saint Peter, Sheffield C150522 1809-1812. (Batch C150522 1809-1812 gives 29 COOK(E).) Compare: Eliza COOK b: 22 APR 1810 bp: 25 APR 1810 Whitby, Yorkshire C007744 1786-1812. Perhaps she was bp'd twice! (Whitby is on E coast.) 2 Harriet COOK b 18 NOV 1811 bp: 26 FEB 1812 Cathedral Saint Peter, Sheffield C150522 1809-1812 3 Anne COOK bp: 01 SEP 1813 Cathedral Saint Peter, Sheffield, Yorkshire 4 Elizabeth COOK b 3 SEP 1815 bp: 22 OCT 1817 Sheffield IGI batch 7833335 5 James COOK b 20 SEP 1817 bp: 22 OCT 1817 Sheffield, Yorkshire The only m in Yorks in IGI which fits this by date (but not place) is: . Benjamin COOK m: 06 AUG 1807 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire Elizabeth MARSHAL M007746 1774-1785. *1814 Swarton, Linc ex Don KELLAWAY quinte"att"attcanada.net 2000: 0 John COOKE of Swarton, Lincolnshire 1 Charles B COOKE 1814 married Elizabeth MUMBY in 1842. To Canada in 1870. *1830 Houghton,Yorkshire ex R G COOK gcook"att"zeuter.com 1999 to COOK list: 0 William COOK b1830 Houghton,Yorkshire - brought by parents to White Rock, Buffalo then to Whitby, Upper Canada (Ontario) in 1839. In 1851, he took a land grant at Mitchell, Ontario. m Elizabeth COLLISON *1836 Hull ex Shelagh COOK shelaghc"att"one.net.au 2000 to COOK list. 0 Moses COOK 1 Christopher COOK bc 1836, Hull Yorkshire. Sweep. May have d Islington MDX m 24 July 1856 Windsor Brks sp-Eliza BOSLEY Issue in Berks & Hants. *c1839 Conisbrough, Yorkshire ex Jacky LEE jacky"att"lee-liss.freeserve.co.uk & Nigel LEE nigel"att"lee-liss.freeserve.co.uk 2000 to COOK list: 0 Henry COOKE 52 1839 M Colliery Deputy Copthern SALOP Fanny COOKE 51 M Dawley SALOP Fanny Eliza COOKE 17 Dau H????ch SALOP John COOKE 14 Son - 40 years in Denaby Colliery nr Doncaster Yorkshire *1846 Oakham (E of Birmingham) freebmd shows 19 m's of Betsy COOKE 1843-98 none to HALL freebmd shows COOKE Elizabeth m Mar 1846 at Oakham (E of Birmingham Volume 15 p 911 to John HALL OR to 2 others! *1851 Census of Denton For entries from the 1851 Census of Denton with COOKE members, see freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genmaps/Baxendell_family_history/Denton_1851.htm *c1860 Kingston upon Hull ex Helen STUDDART Helen"att"gw7aau.freeserve.co.uk 2000: 0 Alfred COOK bc 1860 possibly in Kingston upon Hull 1 Alfred Edward COOK b1884 m 1906 in Kingston upon Hull to Laurinia SPEACHLEY *1871 ex Bob CUNNING 2005: Name Birth Year Birthplace Relation Civil Parish/Town County/Island Alice A COOKE c1867 Doncaster, Yorks Daughter Armthorpe Yorkshire Anne COOKE c 1848 London Visitor Cantley Yorks Arthur J COOKE c 1871 Armthorpe, Yorks Son Armthorpe Yorkshire Charles COOKE c 1822 Cantley, Yorks Head Cantley Yorkshire Charles COOKE c 1847 Armthorpe, Yorks Nephew Cantley Yorkshire Clarisse COOKE c 1863 Doncaster, Yorks Daughter Armthorpe Yorkshire Fanny COOKE c 1851 Wadworth, Yorks Servant Kirk Sandell Yorkshire !Harriet COOKE c 1839 Bawtry, Nottinghams Wife Handsworth Yorkshire John COOKE c 1806 Cantley, Yorks Head Cantley Yorkshire John COOKE c 1849 Cantley, Yorks Son Cantley Yorkshire ............faulty other entries........................ Martha COOKE c1811 Newton; Sparkbrook, Yorks Wife Cantley Yorks Mary COOKE c 1837 Fishlake, Yorks Head Armthorpe Yorkshire Mary COOKE c 1840 Sutton St Edmunds, Lincolnshire Servant Kirk Sandell Yorks Thomas COOKE c 1818 Cantley, Yorks Lodger Cantley Yorkshire Thomas COOKE c 1852 Cantley, Yorkshire Son Cantley Yorkshire !William COOKE c 1840 Bawtry, Nottinghamshire Head Handsworth Yorkshire William H COOKE c 1869 Armthorpe, Yorks Son Armthorpe Yorks *1871? ex Bob CUNNING 2005: Mary E. COOKE c1871 Doncaster, Yorks Daughter Stainforth Road, Barnby On Don, Yorks Sarah A. COOKE c1852 Barnby Dun, Yorks Wife Barnby Dun, Barnby On Don, Yorks Sarah A. COOKE c1857 ... Castle, Lincoln Servant Park Hill Manor, Barnby On Don, Yorks Susan E. COOKE c1872 Doncaster, Yorks Granddaughter Cantley, Yorks William COOKE c1824 Tattershall, Lincoln Head Stainforth Road, Barnby On Don, Yorks *1881 ex Bob CUNNING 2005: Name birth year birth place Relationship Civil Parish/Township County/Island Ada COOKE c1874 Carcroft, Yorks Daughter Stainforth Road, Barnby On Don, Yorks Ann COOKE c1809 Clayton, Yorks Head Long Sandall, Long Sandall, Yorks Annie COOKE c1863 Cantley, Yorks Daughter Cantley, Yorks Elizabeth COOKE c1823 Doncaster, Yorks Wife Cantley, Yorks Ellen COOKE c1856 Doncaster, Yorks Servant Holmhouse, Armthorpe, Yorks Frederick COOKE c1867 Deeping St James, Lincoln Son Stainforth Road, Barnby On Don, Yorks Henry COOKE c1826 Cantley, Yorks Head Cantley, Yorks John COOKE c1858 Saxilby, Lincoln Head Barnby Dun, Barnby On Don, Yorks John T. COOKE c1880 Barnby Dun, Yorks Son Barnby Dun, Barnby On Don, Yorks Mary COOKE c1833 Boston, Lincoln Wife Stainforth Road, Barnby On Don, Yorks ..................... Martha COOKE c 1811 Newton; Sparkbrook, Yorks Wife Cantley Yorkshire Mary COOKE c 1837 Fishlake, Yorks Head Armthorpe Yorkshire Mary COOKE c 1840 Sutton St Edmunds, Lincolnshire Servant Kirk Sandell Yorks Thomas COOKE c 1818 Cantley, Yorks Lodger Cantley Yorkshire Thomas COOKE c 1852 Cantley, Yorks Son Cantley Yorkshire ! William COOKE c 1840 Bawtry, Nottinghamshire Head Handsworth Yorkshire I COULD NOT FIND HIM! William H COOKE c 1869 Armthorpe, Yorks Son Armthorpe Yorkshire *1881 at Church St, Bawtry, Yorks with many "Other"s: Ann MC LOUGHLIN Head W 62 Collingham, Nottingham Lodging Housekeeper Mary COOK Sister M 43 Collingham, Nottingham Fishmongers Wife WILLIE OR WILLEY Visitor M 59 Rossington, York Charwoman *1881 at Swan St, Bawtry, Yorks: William COOK Head M 60 Collingham, Lincoln Fishmonger Thomas COOK Son U 22 Collingham, Lincoln Mechanic Iron Foundry Eliza COOK Daur U 24 Collingham, Lincoln Housekeeper Dom Maryell COOK Grandson 1 Sheffield, York Elthell WARD Visitor U 21 Rand, Lincoln Domestic Servant *1881 at Willowbridge Lane, Sutton In Ashfield, Nottingham: William COOK Head M 46 1835 Gringley On The Hill, Nottingham Banksman Coal Martha COOK Wife M 31 Skegby, Nottingham John Wm. COOK Son 14 Bawtry, Nottingham Coal Miner Christopher WHITE Step Son 10 Hucknall Huthwaite, Nottingham Scholar *1881 at 76 Blocks Speedll Terr, Staveley, Derby: Thomas COOK Head M 49 Staveley, Derby Coal Miner Sarah COOK Wife M 44 Staveley, Derby John T. COOK Son U 21 Dronfield, Derby Coal Miner Jerrison COOK Son U 17 Dronfield, Derby Coal Miner ! Joseph COOK Son 9 Handsworth, York Scholar Edwin COOK Son 7 Coal Aston, Derby Scholar Sarah J. COOK Daur 4 Eckington, Derby Scholar Alfred MORTON Boarder U 24 Handsworth, York Coal Miner *1901 ex Bob CUNNING: Name birth year birth place Relationship Civil Parish/Township County/Island Island View Image Ada COOKE c1874 Carcroft, Yorks Daughter Barnby upon Don Yorkshire Bertha COOKE c1867 Tunford, Nottinghamshire Wife Wheatley Yorkshire Charles COOKE c1822 Cantley, Yorks Head Cantley Yorkshire Charles COOKE c1843 Branton, Yorks Head Cantley Yorkshire ! Elizabeth E COOKE c1870 Colne, Lancashire Wife Bawtry Yorkshire Elizabeth M COOKE c1861 Bentley, Yorks Wife Cantley Yorkshire Francis C L COOKE c1891 Retford, Nottinghamshire Son Wheatley Yorkshire Fredrick W S COOKE c1866 Deeping St James, Lincolnshire Son Barnby upon Don, Yorkshire Harriette COOKE c1865 Bollington, Cheshire Sister Wheatley Yorkshire Henry J COOKE c1858 London, Middlesex Head Wheatley Yorks Herbert COOKE c1881 Branton, Yorks Son Cantley Yorkshire James COOKE c1863 Bollington, Cheshire Head Wheatley Yorkshire Janet COOKE c1866 Bollington, Cheshire Sister Wheatley Yorkshire Joseph COOKE c1876 Branton, Yorks Son Cantley Yorkshire Joy G B COOKE c1895 Retford, Nottinghamshire Daughter Wheatley Yorkshire Lara B S COOKE c1900 Retford, Nottinghamshire Daughter Wheatley Yorkshire ! Nory COOKE abt 1828 Corringham, Nottinghamshire Head Bawtry Yorkshire Richard F COOKE c1856 Portsea, Hampshire Head Bawtry Yorkshire Sarah COOKE c1831 Boston, Lincolnshire Wife Barnby upon Don Yorkshire Sarah COOKE c1849 Stowlangtoft, Suffolk Wife Cantley Yorkshire Sarah COOKE c1847 Thorne, Yorks Head Wheatley Yorkshire Walter COOKE c1889 Branton, Yorks Son Cantley Yorkshire William COOKE c1826 Tattershall, Lincolnshire Head Barnby upon Don Yorkshire Willliam H C W COOKE, Sir abt 1873 Scarborough, Yorks Head Wheatley Yorkshire *k1914-18 Denton, Lancashire (now Denton,Greater Manchester) The war memorial at http://www.carlscam.com/denton/warmem.htm includes COOKE J A & COOKE J W. * mail COOK-D-request"att"rootsweb.com subscribe in msg then mail COOK-L"att"rootsweb.com Search archives at http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/members/archives.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9.3 CLUES for Bawtry, West Riding, South Yorkshire *c1820 ex Genuki: "BAWTRY, a market-town, in the parish of Blythe, (Notts.) lower division of Strafforth and Tickhill; (the seat of the Dowager Viscountess, Galway) 5¼ miles from Barnby Moor Inn, (Notts.) 9 from Doncaster, and 9 from Retford, (Notts.) 12 from Gainsborough (Linc.) 14 from Thorne, 20 from Sheffield, 46 from York, 156 from London. Market, Thursday, (formerly on the Wednesday) Fairs, Thursday in Whitsun Week, and old Martinmas Day, for horses, horned cattle, sheep, and pedlary. Principal Inn, the Crown. Pop. 1,027. The Church is a perpetual curacy under Blythe, dedicated to St. Nicholas, in the deanry of Retford. *1837 White's West Riding Directory Volume 1 of 2 covers Bawtry & Sheffield. www.youroldbooksandmaps.co.uk *1837 Bawtry belongs to Doncaster reg. district. Mainly in West Riding, but also included parts of Linc. and Nottinghamshire. Sub-districts : Barnbrough; Bawtry; Campsall; Doncaster; Tickhill GRO volumes : 15II (1837-51); 9c (1852-1930). *1860 obituaries from The HULL TIMES 5.1.1860? at Belton, near Bawtry Mr Fred. B. KELSEY, farmer, aged 44 years. *1880 This photo taken c1880 shows the wide High St of Bawtry. What looks like a War Memorial is in fact "the Buttercross". Thanks to FH. 6 kb

*c1950 Some photos are at
http://www.francisfrith.com/pageloader.asp?page=/search/viewphotos.asp&townid=37328&cid=10&partner=uk

* mail ENG-YORKSHIRE-D-request"att"rootsweb.com subscribe in subject and body. 
mail ENG-YORKSHIRE-L"att"rootsweb.com
Search archives at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=ENG-YORKSHIRE


*Others with rellies in Bawtry ex Yorks list:
GRAYSON nina.thomas"att"ntlworld.com 2003
HAMSHAW 1861 dave.jassie"att"ntlworld.com 2003
HETT linda_ann_hardy"att"bigpond.com 2003
JENKINSON and KIDSON - Frances HARROGATE fvproud"att"btopenworld.com 2005.
LOUND coastguard23"att"btinternet.com 2004

*Austerfield - Its People (CD-ROM)
includes Men of Austerfield and Bawtry who died in W.W.I.

*2005 population 2750. Being at the crossroads with Notts and Lincs, Bawtry is 
the gateway to South Yorkshire. There  is a Workers' Educational Association
in the area based at Rotherham - telephone 01709 889677.   A branch of the
WEA used to meet in Bawtry and may still do so. 
 - jenny"att"bawtrytowncouncil.fsnet.co.uk 2005
It is 6m from Gringley On The Hill, Notts. where my PASLEY ancestors lived.

*See http://www.the-villager.co.uk/ArticlePrint.asp?FILE=20030109017
Editor"att"the-villager.co.uk "Serving the Doncaster communities of
Rossington, Armthorpe, Intake, Tickhill, BAWTRY, Wadworth, and Branton"
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9.4 COOKE clues elsewhere

*1825 ex Barbara MEREDITH barbmeredith"att"gmail.com 2009
0 0-Joseph COOKE dead by 1825 
m sp-Mary In 1825 Mary remarried at Halifax to a Wm RING.
1 1-Richard COOKE b 1810. Moved to Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada where he
 took a grant of 50 acres of land.  

10. LONGWORTH CLUES (See 1 of 2. c1880-1916.)
 Searching at worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi gave

10.1 Archibald LONGWORTH b: BEF. 1795
m1 19 DEC 1812 Mary Magdalen DUPONT b: BEF. 1797

Joseph LONGWORTH (before 1791) 
m1 28.11.1808 Elizabeth LEACRAFT b: BEF. 1793

All of South Carolina? Source: Elizabeth DuBois RUSSO elizabethrusso"att"home.com

10.2 Francis LONGWORTH          Birth: 1597 Death: 01 JUN 1688
m1 07 JUL 1628 in Milton (next Gravesend), County Kent Marie TUCKER b: 1602
Source: Alice RAVEN  quoting: Title: MASTJH2
	       Author: James H.P. MASTERS
	       Publication: GenServ
	       Note: Title: Robert FROST Biography
	       Author: Evidently quoted from Grolier's Encyclopedia
	       Publication: http://www.pro-net.co.uk/home/catalyst/RF/bio.html 

10.3 Millicent "Martha" LONGWORTH 
	  Sex: F 
	  Birth: BEF. 1747 in Orange Co., Virginia 
	  Death: AFT. 1804 in Spartanburg Co., South Carolina
m1 Luke THORNTON b: ABT. 1743 in Orange Co., Virginia
Source: Mikki MCBRIDE 

10.4 Searching in www.familysearch.org/ under J LONGWORTH gives none in UK.

10.5 APPLETON (6m SW of Oxford) 1861 CENSUS
 ex Megan Wilson 561 Braybourne Close, Uxbridge Middlesex UB8 1U5:
Mary RATHBONE 67 Stonemason's widow all b Appleton El 25 
 Ann LONGWORTH 34 Pavers wife

11. THE TRAYES TREE - re 122 & 14 of 2. - AN EXCERPT          

*From Donald MCFADZEAN: Pratts Rd, RD 3, Drury, Auckland 1750; tel 09 294 8206
email donmc"att"ihug.co.nz Pamela GILBERT has provided KT with material.
     
0 0--James TRAYES 

 
He was the original settler -  WHAKARUA might have been the migrant ship they 
came on-  we've got to check that out and the mine claim where it seems that 
James TRAYES struck it really rich in Thames's goldmines. Lived/worked at
Mt Tokatea, Driving Creek & Kuaotunu. He later moved to Devonport then Mangere 
to plant a vineyard  -KT 2002. 

m 11.5.1861 St Mary's C of E Cathedral, Auckland sp-Keturah NAISH

1 1--William Stephen TRAYES (1862) Methodist lay preacher at Kuaotunu?- KT.
Takapuna Library and Archives records confirmed that William TRAYES owned 
Whakarua- 42 Cheltenham Rd.
 
m sp-Sarah nee DUNSTAN (died in childbirth)

11 2--William "Billy" Hoskin TRAYES (12.10.1908-20.10.1990 Whangaparoa) 
m 4.11.1933 Auckland sp-Ethel FARRAR (5.7.1909-14.3.1985 Auckland)
 She is 122 of our HALL tree in 2. above.

12 2--Ernest TRAYES 
m sp-Evelyn Maude HALL (28.7.1883 Auckland-1940 Devonport)
 She is 14 of our HALL tree in 2. above.

2 1-Ida Mary TRAYES (1866)
m sp-Robert HENDERSON son of Adam and Jane.
 Greatgrandparents of informant Donald McFADZEAN. He is also related on
 the BRAMBLEY side: see 8 above.

3 1-Alfred Ernest TRAYES (1875) A descendant is
* Pamela GILBERT nee NICKS, 290 Hurstmere Rd, Takapuna, Auckland 9
 Tel 09 489 8544 in 2000.
 



 
13. FAMILY MEMBERS ON EMAIL

3113  Jan HASLAM, Alexr ROLLINSON, Eileen ROMAINE jan.haslam"att"xtra.co.nz
32112 phillipsarah555"att"hotmail.com 8.10.07 Names removed on request.
32211 Nerissa Ann & Roby PALE Crestwood"att"vanityhomes.com.au 2004 BOUNCED 05
3222  John, Kay, William & Katherine TRAYES 2009 trayes.family"att"xtra.co.nz 
34111 Lance and Heather WALKER lance"att"firststar.co.nz bounced 09
				hwalker"att"sportsfoundation.org.nz BOUNCED 05
3421  Gary and Jan DICK garyd"att"ihug.co.nz  bounced 09
36-sp relative Don JARRELL 2007 donjarrl"att"jarrell.ca 

36322 Kirsty Lee BRACEGIRDLE 2008: kirsty.lee"att"xtra.co.nz 
3633  Gillian & Bernard KEEGAN  2008: gillkeegan"att"yahoo.co.nz
371   Laurette WITHERS 	laurette_withers"att"xtra.co.nz 
3711  Russell, Fran, Sarah & Kelly WITHERS  franandrussell"att"xtra.co.nz 2003
3712  Peter WITHERS petersw"att"xtra.co.nz
3713  Kit WITHERS 2009 kitw"att"slingshot.co.nz kitw@slingshot.co.nz
381   Geoffrey & Charmaine HALL geoffandchar"att"ozemail.com.au 2005
3612  Stephanie & Ralph NEVILL 2009 rnevill"att"ihug.co.nz 
36121 Penelope June NEVILL 2009 pjn25"att"cam.ac.uk 
362 Dot HALL 2009 dotty25"att"xtra.co.nz  bounced 09

14. SOME WEB LINKS FOR YORKSHIRE AND ENGLAND
.1 genealogy .2 Sheffield .3 maps .4 Denton, greater Manchester

14.1 GENEALOGY   
  
The GENUKI website for YORKSHIRE is 

A useful place to search is the LDS site http://www.familysearch.com
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Trail/8333/index4.html will give you batch numbers for the on-line IGI searches at familysearch.

will allow you to search the HALL archives, browse the HALL threaded archives, or subscribe to HALL-L-request"att"rootsweb.com

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14.2 SHEFFIELD

14.2.1 MAILING LIST
To subscribe or unsubscribe from RootsWeb's mailing list on the Sheffield area,
send e-mail with only the word SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) in the
subject and the body of the message to:
ENG-SHEFFIELD-D-request"att"rootsweb.com (for digest mode).
- If you'd like to post a message so everyonne on the mailing
list receives it, just send it to ENG-SHEFFIELD-L"att"rootsweb.com.
- The archives are available at sheffield.arrchives"att"dial.pipex.com
- To contact the administrator of this mailiing list, send mail to
ENG-SHEFFIELD-admin"att"rootsweb.com.
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14.2.2 OLD SHEFFIELD

A fascinating site for OLD Sheffield is
http://mtx.net.au/~exy/family_history_material.html 



 
Try http://www.jimsdesk.demon.co.uk/history.htm
 for a wonderful history of Sheffield!



http://www.dove.net.au/~exy/fh_material/sheffield_circa_1800.txt 
gives  A DESCRIPTION OF THE TOWN OF SHEFFIELD in the year 1832 
at the time the Cholera was raging in Sheffield, with mentions of
Upperthorpe. 


 
http://www.shu.ac.uk/services/lc/slidecol/pubart.shtml
has "public art" of Sheffield - including statues at Upperthorpe library.


14.2.3 THE SHEFFIELD LOCAL STUDIES LIBRARY
is on Surrey Street, Sheffield.

 
14.2.4
GENUKI lists
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WAR/birmingham/index.html
It lists there how to do a search of Index details for the 1891 Census for 6P.
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14.3 LANCASHIRE ex David MARTIN martin.d"att"paradise.net.nz 2004

Lancashire Surname List http://www.lancslist.com/
 - eg a large number seeking HALL including an entry by me


Places in Lancashire
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohnMTurner/Gazetteers/L
ancashire/Database.htm

On Line Parish Clerk (OPC) with map & parishes of Lancs & links to other OPCs
http://www.pioneerinfo.com/LAN-OPC/

A select gazetteer of local government areas, Greater Manchester County
http://www.gmcro.co.uk/guides/gazette/gazframe.htm - eg an entry for Denton.
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14.4 MAPS
14.3.1 One place for OLD UK MAPS (1846-1899, 6 inches to the mile - about 1 in 
10,000) is

14.3.2 

Remember that Henry HALL was living at Walkley when he married in 1877?
 Selecting Yorkshire then Walkley at old-maps above gave

14.3.3 

14.3.4 MODERN-DAY OS maps of the United Kingdom (at 1:250,000 scale) can be
found at 

http://http://uk.multimap.com gives a map of any current village in the UK with a list of PLACES TO STAY and links to them.
For example type: "Sheffield". It does not recognise Netherhallam.
http://www.bt.com/phonenetuk/ gives you the phone number and address of most people and businesses in the UK.

14.4  DENTON, GREATER MANCHESTER
DENTON used to be one of the major centres in England for felt top hats. That 
would fit in with William being a hatter and coming from Denton in Cheshire.-EP

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14.5 Bristol & Gloucester
Gloucester Soc. of Genealogists http://www.sog.org.uk/prc/gloucester.html
 Clicking on B gives many resources for Bristol 
eg BRISTOL St Philip & St Jacob	 M 1800-37 [84]; M(I) 1800-37 [29];
 M(I) Ext [Boyd]; Bristol area out of parish burials 1813-37 [115]

http://www.about-bristol.co.uk/chu-11.asp gives a history of this church


IGI batch numbers for Gloucester including Bristol are at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyGloucester_(A-M).htm
 No batch numbers for St Philip & St Jacob, Bristol - so not indexed!

15. NZ PASSENGER LISTS
 
2 websites for these (neither with Henry and Laura HALL) are
 http://members.nbci.com/denisepeter/PassengersAuckland.htm 
and
 http://members.nbci.com/denisepeter/OurPassengerLists.htm 
For Auckland one can contact
 Karen Kalopulu, Family History Librarian, PO Box 4138, Auckland 
  tel (09)307-7773 kalopulK"att"akcity.govt.nz

The Index to Ships Mentioned in Maritime History Books
at http://faculty.washington.edu/petermcc/shipindex.html 
contains c50,000 ships. This list is compiled by Peter MCRACKEN -see
http://ils.unc.edu/maritime/contact.shtml before contacting mccrp"att"ils.unc.edu. 

Passenger ships arriving in Australasian Ports         
at http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/shipping/mig-nz3.htm
lists the ships in Sir Henry Brett's two volumes of "White Wings" (1924, 1928).
The site gives for LEBU: arrived Auckland 27.9.1878 and 24.10.1879.

 "Log of logs - a catalog of logs journals shipboard diaries letters ...
1788-1988 for Oz & NZ.." by Ian NICHOLSON 18 Wununga Cr, Yaroomba Qnsld 4573.

nzgenealogy.rootschat.net/cemetery.html failed. Cf www.rootschat.com to nz 
NZ m Index: marvin.otago.ac.nz/marriages 1840-1956

16. ABBREVIATIONS

b born, bp baptised, c about, d died, kb kilobytes, m married, mb megabytes, 
sp spouse



17. KINDER clues
 re 22 of 1., Gertrude LONGWORTH m 1906 Fred KINDER b1876 Gee Cross, Cheshire. 
17.1 FAMILY OF FRED KINDER mainly ex Steve SShawcross21"att"aol.com 2005-7

0 Hugh KINDER 
1 Hugh KINDER bp  3.2.1766 Dukinfield Old Chapel (Presbytarian). Thought to be

1 Hugh KINDER m 7.8.1808 Stockport sp-Betty HOWARD
 (Chn in ancestral file on familysearch but first is Thomas bc1814 so it
looks like Jonathan preceeded him.)

11 Jonathan KINDER b 23.1.1811 bp 21.9.1811 St. Michael and All Angels,
 Ashton-under-Lyne
m 4 August 1832 Glossop, Derbyshire sp-Jane HOWTON 
111 Margaret KINDER b 4 March 1837

112 Hugh KINDER b 1839 Godley, Cheshire
 8 Dec 1839 Hugh son of Jonathan and Jane KINDER in (A)
 (b probably registered Hyde 1861 ref: Hyd/3/18. Tameside Reg -CANT BE RIGHT!)
m 1861 Stockport in a civil ceremony ref STR/15/138 sp-Betty O. HAMPSON 1839
 Gee Cross, Cheshire. b registered Hyde 1839 ref: Hyd/3/3.

1881 census Dwelling 99 Stockport Road,	Hyde, Cheshire:
 Name Relation Marital Status Age 	Birthplace 	Occupation    ID here
 Hugh KINDER  	 Head  	 M 42 1839 Godley, Cheshire Felt Hat Proofer  	 112
 Betty KINDER  	 Wife  	 M 42 1839 Gee Cross, Cheshire Home Work  	  
 Joseph KINDER   Son  	 U 18 1863 Gee Cross, Cheshire Felt Hat Finisher 1121
 Frank KINDER  	 Son  	 U 16 1865 Gee Cross, Cheshire Felt Hat Proofer  1122
 Alfred KINDER   Son  	 U 15 1866 Gee Cross, Cheshire Errand Boy  	 1123
 Annie KINDER  	 Dau  	 U 12 1869 Gee Cross, Cheshire Scholar  	 1124
 Fred KINDER  	 Son  	 U  5 1876 Gee Cross, Cheshire Scholar  	 1125

  1901 Fred was living with his wife-to-be's family: see under 4 above.     ID
  1901 census Name Age WhereBorn AdministrativeCounty CivilParish Occupation
Hugh KINDER   62 Cheshire Godley                  Hyde  House Furnisher   112
Betty KINDER  62 Cheshire Werneth  	           Hyde
Joseph KINDER 39 Cheshire Hyde       Chester Hyde  Labourer In Hat Works  1121
Frank KINDER 36 Cheshire Gee Cross Chester Godley MachinePlanerFittingShop1122
Alfred KINDER 35 Cheshire Gee Cross           Hyde Billiard Room Attendint1123

1121 Joseph KINDER 1863 Gee Cross, Cheshire - 1881,1901 with parents
 Joseph registered Hyde 1862 ref: hyd/34/10
1122 Frank KINDER 1865 Gee Cross, Cheshire - 1881,1901 with parents
 Frank registered Hyde 1864 ref: hyd/36/82
1123 Alfred KINDER 1866 Gee Cross, Cheshire - 1881,1901 with parents
 Alfred registered Hyde 1866 ref: hyd/39/7 
1124 Annie KINDER 1869 Gee Cross, Cheshire - 1881,1901 with parents
 Ann registered Hyde 1868 ref: hyd/42/84

1125 Fred KINDER 1876 Gee Cross, Cheshire - 1881 Scholar with parents
 Fred registered Hyde 1875 ref: hyd/54/34

  At www.carlscam.com click on memorials in line 2 below header on LHS
then sroll down to Hyde Town Hall. Clicking there gives "Pte Fred KINDER"
under Panel 4, August 1917 to August 1918.

m 14.4.1906 Walthamstow Parish Church, Essex sp-Gertrude LONGWORTH b c July
 1880 Denton, Lancashire. # SHE IS 42 at 2. above. 
  1901 Fred was living with his wife-to-be & her family: see under 4 at 2.
NB Fred might be the 2nd of these 2 from the Commonwealth War Graves Commission 
 at http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx
No. Surname Rank Service Date Of Death	Age Regiment Nationality Grave/Memorial
 Ref.	Cemetery/Memorial Name
1. KINDER, F Lance Corporal C/7328 10/09/1916 - King's Royal Rifle Corps UK
	Sp. Mem. 12.	Flatiron Copse Cemetery, Mametz
2. KINDER, FRED Private	40402	01/10/1917 Belgium - Manchester Regiment UK
 20th btn, Panel 120 to 124 and 162 to 162A and 163A.	Tyne Cot Memorial
 - commemorative entries at St. John's, Godley and Hyde Town Hall -Steve. 
(Not listed is the 3rd there as he has the wrong parents.)
The Manchester regt is one of the likely regiments he would be assigned to.
Try the online war memorials. If he was living in Walthamstow in 1914 he'd be 
on the War memorial there (which I think is in St. Mary's) and not at Hyde.
This gave no names but Walthamstow Town Hall,Forest Rd,Walthamstow,
Greater London E17 4JF:WW1: Roll of Honour/Walthamstow/The Great War/1914-1918
Eight Volumes of Book of Remembrance kept within polished oak case.
 Steve suggests the Hyde War Memorial at
http://www.tamesidehistoryforum.org.uk/hydewarmemorial.htm
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17.2 OTHER KINDER

*1609 ex Steve SShawcross21"att"aol.com 2005 - ex Geoff ROSEN in Oz?
 (a small portion of his KINDER database)
KINDER baptism's St. Michael's, Mottram in Longdendale (M) or St. Michael's 
Ashton-under-Lyne (A), other places idividually annoted:
 
28 February 1609 Hugh KYNDER son of Hugh KYNDER in (M)
7 May 1615 Hughe KYNDER in (M)
17 March 1621 Hugh son of Heneye KYNDER in (M)
19 August 1621 Raph son of Hugh KYNDER in (M)
6 Feb 1624 Hugh son of Hugh KYNDER in (M)
8 Feb 1628 Hughe son of William KYNDER in (M)
3 Apr 1631 Raph son of John KYNDER in (M)
1652 Hugh son of Hugh KYNDER in (M)
11 Oct 1663 Raph son of John KYNDER in (A)
7 Oct 1666 Raph son of Richard KYNDER in (A)
Mar 1672 Hugh son of John KYNDER in (M)
20 Jun 1676 Hugh son of John KYNDER in (M)
27 Jan 1702 Hugh son of Hugh KYNDER in (A)
26 Aug 1731 Hugh son of Hugh KINDER in (M)
3 Sep 1732 Hugh son of Samil KINDER in (M)
9 Jun 1741 Hugh son of John KINDER in (M)
3 Feb 1766 Hugh son of Hugh KINDER in Dukinfield Old Presbytarian
10 Feb 1771 Ralph son of Hugh and Deborah KINDER in Gee Cross unitarian
27 Jun 1776 Ralph son of Ralph KINDER in Dukinfield Old Presbytarian
16 Nov 1778 Hugh son of Ralph  and Ann KINDER in Gee cross unitarian
27 Mar 1788 Hugh son of Daniel and Ann KINDER in (M)
17 Feb 1789 Hugh son of Hugh and Betty KINDER in Dukinfield Old Presbytarian
21 Apr 1793 Ralph son of Thomas and Martha KINDER in Manchester Cathedral
24 Aug 1794 Hugh son of George and Ann KINDAR in (A)
3 April 1796 Ralph son of Thomas and Sarah KINDER in Stalybridge
2 April 1804 Hugh son of Ralph and Esther KINDER in Gee cross unitarian
18 feb 1822 Hugh Alexander son of Hugh and Ann KINDER nee Knott in Gee Cross
 unitarian
28 May 1822 Ralph son of Allen and Nancy KINDER in (A)
9 June 1822 Hugh son of James and Martha KINDER in Stalybridge
28 Dec 1824 Ralph Sidney son of Hugh and Ann KINDER nee KNOTT in Gee Cross
 unitarian
27 Mar 1825 Ralph son of Allen and Nancy KINDER in (A)
17 Jun 1827 Ralph son of Edward and Jane KINDER in (A)
13 Jan 1828 Ralph son of Hugh and Martha KINDER in (A)
23 Sep 1829 Hugh son of Edward and Jane KINDER in Dukinfield Old Prebytarian
2 Jun 1835 Ralph son of Samuel and Ann KINDER nee SIDEBOTTOM in Gee Cross
 unitarian
9 Oct 1836 Ralph son of James and Betty KINDER in Gee Cross unitarian
8 Dec 1839 Hugh son of Jonathan and Jane KINDER in (A) #HE IS 1 in 17.1 above.
27 Mar 1842 Hugh son of Allen and Henrietta KINDER in (A)
9 Jul 1843 Hugh son of James and Ann KINDER
1856 0r 7 Ralph son of Robert Wooley KINDER and Phoebe HIRST in Dukinfield Old 
 Presbytarian
 
Hugh KINDER m Rebecca Bell 1848 (A)
Ralph KINDER m. Mary Hampson  1855 St. Paul's, Staly
Ralph KINDER m. Hannah Cash 1861-5 St. John's, Dukinfield
Hugh KINDER m. Mary A Connor 1866-70 (A)
Ralph KINDER m. Elizabeth A CHADDERTON 1866-70 St. Paul's, Staly nb. her m2.
 other name COOLING
 
Ralph KINDER m. Elizabeth Howard 1866-1870 New St. George's, Stalybridge
Hugh KINDER m. Alice Kay 1871-1875 (A) her second m. other name Newton
Ralph KINDER M. Alice Lockett 1891-95 Old St. George's Stalybridge
 
Row 28 Grave 81 St, Paul's Stalybridge Owner John KINDER entry reads
 Hugh KINDER , Hollingworth buried on 31 Mar 1900 aged 81. in the inscription
 Hugh of Hollingworth who departed this life 29 Mar 1900 aged 58, also of
 Harriet his widow who departed this life 12 April 1915 in her 75th year.
 
Buried at (M): 
Ralph KINDER 2 Apr 1815 of Godley aged 45
Ralph KINDER 31 Jan 1821 of Matley aged 1 week
Hugh KINDER 5 Jun 1802 of Manchester
Hugh KINDER 3 Apr 1805 of Stayley bridge son of George
Hugh KINDER 15 Dec 1805 of Stayley bridge son of Samuel
Hugh 28 Feb 1817 of Staley aged 84
Hugh 9 Jan 1824 of Godley aged 84
Hugh 5 Jan 1837 of Hollins, Stalybridge aged 71 
 
1871 census:
 67 Vandrey Street, Dukinfield (Vaudrey St, Stalybridge?)
  Ralph KINDER 47 b. Mottram and family
 Market St, Hollingworth Hugh KINDER 39 b, Stalybridge and family.
 Fairview Cottage, Staly Ralph KINDER 56 b. Stalybridge and family
 Fairview Public house, Staly Hugh KINDER 59 b. Stalybridge (and family?)
 21 Compton St, Staly Ralph KINDER 27 b. Stalybridge with parents and brothers
  
1881 census:     
 9 Wakefield Rd, Ashton Hugh KINDER aged 58, Joiner b. Stalybridge and family
 
1901 Census:
 19 Mottram Rd (Dukinfield?) Dog and Pheasant 
Hugh A KINDER farmer aged 69 b staley
 20 Mottram Rd Ralph L KINDER general labourer aged 66 b. Staley
Elizabeth his wife aged 61 b. Staley
James son gen labourer b. Staly
 21 Crompton st with family Ralph KINDER son blacksmith 37 b. stalybridge
 7 Elgin St with family Hugh KINDER aged 6
 2 Fairbrother St, Hyde: 
Hugh KINDER head of household of 5 aged 52 felt hatter b. Hyde
Fred KINDER aged 6 b Hyde; ...
 
1929:
Fred KINDER m Kathleen Phyllis HADFIELD in St. George's Hyde 1929 ref CE28/8/54

*1890 Huddersfield near Meltham ex Annette KINDER Annette.Kinder"att"gnb.ca 2005
0 Fred KINDER 1890 in Huddersfield near Meltham
m  Clara Jane BROADBENT
1 Fred KINDER He died when 11 was 7.
11 Fred KINDER of Earby
111 Annette KINDER b Skipton, UK; lived in Earby 
2 Charlie KINDER alive 2005

* ex Stephen SHAWCROSS SShawcross21"att"aol.com 2007: has info on family of
Hugh KINDER from the districts around Hyde, Cheshire. 



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