PC-programming cable for Kenwood TH-G71A / TH-F6A (*)

*Note: The interface described here has been verified to
work on the TH-G71 and also the the TH-F6A/TH-F7E.

Background Plug pinout Schematic Building a homemade interface Implementations built by other hams Using the interface / Software Debugging problems with the interface Programming the radio with a PC

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Background

With these clues, and after studing the signals coming out of the radio (and lots of debug time ...), I finally figured out the plug connections at the radio end.

I was able to use basically the same interface schematic that was claimed to work for the Kenwood PG-4S cable (which is used for the TM-G707 / TM-V7 radios instead of the Kenwood TH-G71).

Refer to http://home.attbi.com/~kc7zru/pg4s.html for the schematic for the PG-4S interface:

The DB-9 connector to the PC is the same, but the connector on radio side is different. (Instead of the 6-pin mini-DIN connector, use the 2.5mm and 3.5mm phono plugs for the TH-G71)

Refer to Drawing at the URL above (Tate Belden's site), right hand side, starting at the top:

1. Ignore the tie between pins 4 and 5 of the mini-DIN connector. (There is no such tie on the TH-G71 Cable)
2. The interface's "TXD" goes to Ring of 2.5mm plug. (cathode of the diode on the interface)
3. The interface's "RxD" goes to the Shield of 3.5mm plug. (collector of NPN on interface)
4. GND goes to shield of the 2.5mm plug.
5. The tips of both plugs are No-connect.

1. Change R1 from 150ohm to 1K ohm (this is the resistor feeding the zener diode). I found that 150ohms loaded the line too much and the resulting voltage was too low to power the interface from the Serial port. If you have problems, be sure that the cathode of the Zener is at about 4.9V. I found that the interface worked down to about 3.2V when I just powered this from a variable power supply instead of through the PC serial port (after removing R1 and the zener and just applying voltage at C1)
2. add a 150K ohm resistor between the Radio TXD to gnd. I did this just to keep the voltage down on the TxD pin because the radio seems to be 3.3V I/O pin (not 5V)

TH-G71 PC cable interface plugs.

                _________  shield  ring  tip
               |         |_______ __ __
   2.5mm plug  |         |       |  |  \    
   (3/32")     |         |_______|__|__/
               |         |  |     |   |_ N/C
                ---------   |     |
                           GND   Radio TXD (out)

                _________  shield  ring  tip
               |         |_______ __ __
   3.5mm plug  |         |       |  |  \    
               |         |       |  |   |---- N/C
   (1/8")      |         |_______|__|__/
               |         |   |     |_________ N/C
                ---------    |      
                             |________ Radio RxD (in)

Here is the resulting schematic:

Disclaimer:Although this works fine for me, use at your own risk.

Note: Updated schematic Sept 24, 2002 to add D4. Thanks to Gary Bishop for the idea. He was seeing blown transistors.

Building it - my homemade interface

• Ocean State Electronics (Westerly, RI. (800)866-6626) ose@riconnect.com
• Willy's Electronic Supply (National City, CA. (619)477-2119) willys@cts.com

Interface Photo 1	Interface Photo 2	Component Placement Diagram

Other implementations

	PT2RFL, Rubens Fiuza Lima, is a professional circuit board designer who designed this tiny two-sided surface-mount board (blank board shown here) which fits inside a DB-9. He had several PCB's fabricated. More photos here.
	Torbjörn Söderberg (SM4XDJ) in Sweden managed to fit the entire circuit board inside a DB-9 Clamshell-style connector for his TH-F7E (European version of the TH-F6A). More photos here. Torbjörn used R1=150ohm and omitted R7, as in the original schematic mentioned earlier.
	Bill Verstelle (N7OQ verst@pacbell.net) made a ~1" x 2" printed circuit board which he fit into a film canister.

Using the interface / software

1. For TH-G71: Menu 15, TC ON
   Tranceiver Control must be enabled, or else you will get a communication timeout error when trying to communicate with the radio after connecting the cable up to your PC. "TC ON" enables the plugs on the side to work as data lines instead of as external mic/speaker.

         Press the "F" button, and then Band, turn the main tuning
         knob to Menu 15 Transceiver Control and turn it ON for
         programming.  You will need to use a free com port (Com 1 or 2) on the PC.
         

   Note: For the TH-F6 radio, the Kenwood manual states: Access Menu No. 9 and select "PC"

2. Kenwood Programming software
   Download the PC Programming s/w from Kenwood FTP site ftp://ftp.kenwood.net or web page http://www.kenwood.net/amateur -> downloads -> software -> THG71A
   You should see the files mg71200.exe and readme.txt .
   Install the software and Run mcp-g71.exe. go to file menu, and be sure your com port is set correctly, then turn on radio, and plug in, and do "Radio-> Read". Try it a few times -- I found that it sometimes said something like "Communication timeout" the first time I tried after connecting up the interface.

Debugging problems with the interface

1. Be sure you have done everything listed under "Use". If you are really stuck, you can try these checks:
2. Verify power + side:
   1. With the interface connected to the pc, connect a meter to node 1 (cathode of the Zener) and ground.
   2. In the MCP program, do radio->read (you should see "reading data from radio") As it is "trying" to read the radio, quickly check the voltage.
   3. The voltage should be about 4-5 Volts. This is needed to power the interface from the serial port. Note: The voltage at the RTS and CTS pins of the DB-9 connector will NEGATIVE when the Com port is inactive (when you are not trying to read or write to the radio with the software). But the voltage will go POSITIVE (about 9V on my PC) when the Com port is active.

      Condition	RTS/CTS Voltage
      Com port idle, not reading/writing radio	about -6 to -12V
      Com port active, reading/writing radio	about +6 to +12V

   4. If you don't have good power here, something is wrong. (This is why I increased R1 resistance from the original schematic - as the original lower value loaded my serial port down too much due to the diode at node 1).
      You can power the interface externally: Remove the rts/cts connections from the PC and just power node 1 with a battery or external power supply. This was the main problem I had getting my interface working (besides trying to figure out the pinouts of kenwood jacks).
3. Verify power negative (-) side:
   1. With the interface connected to the pc, connect a meter to node 7 (negative terminal of the Cap C2)
   2. In the MCP program, do radio->read (you should see "reading data from radio" As it is "trying" to read the radio, quickly check the voltage.
   3. The voltage should be negative (more negative than about -5 or -6V) This is needed to generate a negative voltage back to the PC RxD.
4. If this power is good in the previous steps, but the interface still does not work, recheck the interface to make sure everything is wired up correctly including all ground connections, and the pinouts the serial port DB connector. Check all part values and that the polarity of caps is correct, and that NPN and PNP transistor are wired up the correct way.
5. If that does not find any problems, I would then test the interface to be sure it does the correct level-shifting and "inversion" of the levels from the PC (RS-232) to lower-voltage for the Radio. This can be a bit tricky and you need some power supplies and clips to do this, with the interface disconnected from the PC and the Radio. Basically, you want to verify the following:
   1. With TXD (out from the radio) = 0V, the RxD to PC should be about 5V
   2. With TXD (out from the radio) = 3-5V, the RxD to PC should be between -5V to -12V.
   3. With TXD (out from the PC) between -5V to -12V, the RxD to the Radio should be "floating" (Q2 off) (and the weak pullup in radio pulls the node to a logic "high" value)
   4. With TXD (out of the PC) > 5V or so, the RxD to Radio should be 0V (Q2 is "on").
   But the catch is that the interface generates the -12V (or so) by the switching on TXD. So you need to fake it out to be sure you have this voltage (which should be there in step 3c) because you don't have the interface connected to the PC anymore. Otherwise, you won't get the negative voltage in step 5B.

Programming the TH-G71

Chris Koza azkoza@yahoo.com
KB7QPK

since July, 2001.