TheVagrants
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Leslie Weinstein  Guitar
Larry Weinstein  Bass
Roger Mansour Drums
Jerry Storch Organ/vocals
Peter Sabatino vocals

The Band formed in '64  in Long Island. They met at the Forest Hills High school.
Leslie and Larry were brothers.Johnny Ramone (Ramones) was their school mate.
 


Interview with Johnny Ramone by Mike Stax

(this interview  is partial quotation from Ugly Things #14courtesy of Mike Stax )

MS: Well, everyone goes  through their first bad bands! What other bands were in your school? There must've probably been several.
JR: Yeah, I don't remember their names ,but the main thing that was arotmd was the Vagrants, and they were in Forest Hills. First I knew Roger Mansour, who was the drum- mer, and me and him used to be friends. He used to call for me in the morning and we used to go to school together. He was a great drummer, and I'd hear from him how he was going to get into the Vagrants. And Larry West-who was Larry Weinstein, who was Leslie's brother-he was the bass player. He'd be sitting there in the study hall 'cos he'd be on permanent suspension for having his hair too long. He'd be saying he was starting a band with his brother and how his brother's a great guitar player. And I'd ask other kids in the school about if they knew the good guitar player, and they'd go, "No, he's just a fat kid. He's no good." But Larry would always be saying how great his brother was. His brother was older, and he was just a dropout. Larry at this point was about 15, I was about 16, and Leslie was about 18. Larry just sat there suspended the whole year 'cos all that mattered was the Vagrants and growing his hair--that was the important thing in his life. So they were starting, and as soon as I saw Leslie play I said, "Wow, this guy's great!" He didn't play like he played later on, but he was able to play whatever cover he was doing and do it exact-from Beatles stuff to "You Reany Got Me." 'Whatever he would figure out, he would play just like the record.
UT: So this is well before they released any sin-
gles, right?
JR: I think the first one, "I Can't Make A Friend," came out January '66, so this has gotta be in '65.
UT: So at this point were they kinda different from their records? Because they became more like a Young Rascals-type soul band.
JR: They went through so many different evolutions throughout the band. They would start out as
a straight cover band--doing very straight covers from Beatles to Rolling Stones. Leslie would get to
sing one song, "Roll Over Beethoven," and they would switch off on the vocals between Larry and Pete Sabatino, who was the singer.
UT: Did they have an organ all the time?
JR: Yeah, they had the organ, but it would just be a portable one at that point-a Farfisa. And that
eventually tuned into a Hammond. Somewhere along the way they went away to Long Island to play some places, and that's when they came back and we started hearing more about the Rascals and Vanilla Fudge. The Vagrants came back and they were different. They were into more like the Rascals- type thing with the songs slowed down and doing sort of a soul type of thing-like "Mustang Sally" type stuff. They were doing "Good Lovin"I and stuff too. They kept doing covers of other people's songs, but they would be better than the Rascals and better than the Vanilla Fudge at doing the stuff. They just looked better, and Leslie's guitar playing was far superior to Gene Comish of the Rascals or Vince Martell, the guitar player in the Vanilla Fudge. Larry West was really becoming a star at that point. It was weird, 'cos they would play, I think,
the Rolling Stone Club in the city, and they played there for six straight months, like five, six nights aweek.

UT: What kind of places would you usually seethem play?
JR: I would try and get into wherever I could.Sometimes you could get into certain clubs who wouldn't get so heavy with the proofing. There'd be a place in the city. I saw them at the Manhattan Center, Action House on Long Island-places like that. I must've seen them dozens of times.
UT: Generally at these shows would it be a bill with several bands?
JR: No, later on it got that way. Probably around '67 you'd go to shows a lot at the Fillmore, and the Fillmore would have these multiple group shows, and the Vagrants would get onto shows like that, probably lower down the bill. I remember going to a WMCA Good Guys show here in the city which had a whole bunch of acts. Everybody would come on and play like three songs, and the Vagrants had a fairly good bill on that. The
Cream were on it, the Who were on it, and Mitch Ryder-when he went sok-was the headliner.
UT: That must've been a phenomenal show! How did the Vagrants match up to those other acts?
JR: Oh, I thought they matched up. I didn't see no problem, y'know? (laughs) The band looked so good, and Larry was becoming like a Jim Morrison. (laughs) It's hard to imagine, but he must have been
modelling himselft after Jim Morrison at that point-just like permanently fucked-up with the
leather pants and the long, wavy hair.
UT.. What was their stage act like? Would there be a lot of movement? JR: Yeah, a lot of movement. Leslie would be-come more and more flashy with the outfits he would be getting into. They'd just go through so
many phases where everything would come in with the really loud coloured clothes with these
boas-these feathered things around him, y'know? Weird seeing some 350-pound guy looking like this.
y'know? (laughter)
UT: Were you like part of a Vagrants "following" that would go to all their shows?
JR: I was a fan like everybody was a fan. I would not be bothered talkin' to people. I would just go with my friends and watch the show. I would be going to all concerts, I'd be trying to see all the concerts I could. I saw the Stones like five times with Brian Jones; I've seen the Who ten times; the Doors probably seven, eight times. Every band. I don't know if there's anybody I didn't see.


We are Vagrants Fan! (Button for fan club members in '60s)
 

"Oh Those Eyes" / "You're Too Young"  on Southern Sound #204.  This got
regional airplay, but never hit any of the trade industry charts.

"I Can't Make A Friend" / "Young Blues"  came out in late January, 1966.  It
has a color picture sleeve.  on Vanguard #35038.
"The Final Hour" / "YourHasty Heart".  Vanguard #35042
By this time, the Vagrants had switched over to a heavy "Young Rascals blue-eyed soul" sound.
Then they signed ATCO .

I Love ,Love You(Yes I Do)/Respect   Atco 45-6473  '67
A Sunny Summer Rain/Beside The Sea  Atco 45-6513 '67
And When It's Over/I Don't NEed Your Loving  Atco 45-6552 '68

In'68 Leslie left the Band .Later he played in Jolliver Arkansaw with Felix Papalardi, Moutan, and West ,Bruce And Raing , but it is another story.

Special thanks to my friend Mr.ZOZO.


 

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